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Hello CSmith,

How would you like us to pray for Jamie Foxx?

Gigi.

Example. Part 2.

Romans 9:1-6.

Who is Paul's Kinsman of the flesh? Is it the church? No. I'm sure most agree on that.

Paul tells us here in Romans 9:3-4.For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

Some believe the distinction made here in

Romans 9:6 is Israel and the Church but scripture Identifies them for us.

Here in Romans 9:7-8 Paul is simply saying Israel don't inherit salvation by natural birth/Kinsman of the flesh,

You inherit it by the promise, which is Christ. He's making a distinction between believing Israel and non believing Israel.

The Church at large is not in the discussion here.

Paul is clearly talking about Abraham's descendants.

It gets clearer as we read

Romans 9:9-10

I'm going to leave off right here Gigi.

It's getting late here and I'm using the cellphone.

I will get back to this when I can get in front of my computer.

Again I will like to go to the OT and comb through the details of the covenants and promises.

God bless you.

Hi Gigi.

Part 1

This exercise is not to promote a eschatological viewpoint or to explain neither dispensationalism or covenant theology.

It's to give understanding on how one uses hermeneutics when forming eschatological views.

This exercise will give us a chance to examine our approach to scripture whether it's fundamentally, figuratively, allegorically, ect.

It's not intended to promote eschatological views, It's the approach to scripture as a whole is what's being examined.

So it's not a breakdown of whatever theological category we espouse..

Its simply does God mean what he says? Does God change his mind? And what is the word of God actually saying?

It's also paying close attention to detail on scripture and putting it in context. Especially when linked to the covenants and promises without focusing on a particular theology.

Here's an example;

Galatians 6:12-16.

verse 16 is a scripture that causes a lot of controversy.

vs16- "And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on (THEM,) and mercy, and upon the ISRAEL OF GOD.

(Who's the them? The believing Gentiles! ) uncircumcised.

( PUTTING IT INTO CONTEXT )

Paul is completing his distinction he was making between the two believing groups he was talking about in the previous verse.

Vs 15) For in Christ Jesus neither CIRCUMCISION availeth any thing, nor UNCIRCUMCISION, but a new creature.

Who's the Israel of God? ( The believing Circumcised) Israelites.

Paul is saying in Christ we're all the same.

He's not calling the Church the Israel of God. Read through it from verse 12.

See example part 2.

God bless.

PS I cannot recall where but we were given a time of return 1000 years on earth is like 1 day to God and you probably know where it says something about dawn on day 3?

1000 years here = day 1

2000 years here = day 2

30 AD ? Don't quote me it's from my memory



2030 is the end of day #2

Sorry I cannot remember where this is in the Bible but Jerren Lewis had a video on this on

AoC network which is good for younger teens

(some visuals for their understanding )

The variety of each enhance each other.

What's sad is most Christian churches don't teach this, especially Revelation. My go to is Pastor Gary Hamrick if anything is questionable for the final word. (For me)

Thanks for your comments and there's never any offense taken, the main point is we all believe Jesus Christ is our Prince of Peace and He suffered on that cross for our sins

Without doubt, it's a misunderstanding.

He has dozens of videos and that's a class he's teaching so I think it's just a misunderstanding

Perhaps he already mentioned things in his previous 11 chapters. He specifically mentions it's a lot to get into and this is only one chapter out of 22.

I didn't post this for anyone to get the entire story in one hour

He also stated clearly about signs and wonders stars, etc.

Go to 25:00 on Trump is. "Recognizing the capital of Israel" not being in Tel Aviv and moved the embassy.

Do you know how long the Armenian Genocide had not been recognized for? That's the point

The sign of recognition

The constellation on Sept 23, 2017 is just a sign or wonder whatever you want to call it just as the North Star was ahead of the birth of Jesus .

If he were to teach it all in one chapter he would omit ch1-11 and spend 12-24 hours teaching straight.

Please don't take offense but when I comment,

My intent is to share an interesting find and assuming we all have basic common sense

(sense of humor :)

I'm not a Bible scholar but I know who teaches directly from the Bible and who does not.

Nobody knows the day or the hour of Jesus' return but we were given the signs and seasons and if the scholars got the math correct (not one I listen to will give a date) just so you y'all know that I know better!

But.

I'll take a wild guess. From previous guidance

I'm watching Israel closely ;)

Quakes

Persecution of not only Jews but Christians

Demonic entertainment on the world stage

Lawlessness (the US is a disgrace)

Rebellion? Wow is there, globally

Global GENOCIDE

I'm a descendant of a survivor of the Armenian Genocide, that jab is Genocide

(I'm also a 25 yr retired medic, DHS, Nuke inspector, and more)

I can go on and on but I'll stop with this;

I'm watching for a 3rd Temple

Good Bless everyone here and hope to see you all up there (2030-2033) maybe.? Maybe not! lol

Nstew before you can understand timelines, you must first understand there are three earth ages and three heaven ages. You also should understand what the translators of the KJV said to the 'readers.' What they said 'was reader beware. Although blessed by God to translate, we are human as you and make mistakes as any other human.' Then you can understand there are some bad translations in the KJV. But, don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Our Father destroyed the first heaven and earth age because he did not want to destroyed a third of His children that followed Satan. Then the earth 'became 'to'-hoo, bo'-hoo' it was not created 'void and empty' but was created to be inhabited. Then we continue with the second verse, then with the 3rd verse of Genesis.

We know this earth is billions of years old, science agrees. And so this is the second earth and heaven age. Same old earth, same old heaven, new age.

You answered your own question Mary 1979. Man's traditions. Man's traditions make void the word of God.

oops, S, Spencer,

I looked back and it was your post that brought up dispensational and covenant theology to Jema. That seemed to be the way that the conversation was going so, knowing you favor dispensational tenets as opposed to covenant, I thought I could be the one to present more on covenant theology and you could explain dispenational theology for Jema. I would like to read what you would write concerning that.

Hello S. Spencer.

do believe You are right. Not all dispensationalist think as you do. Classic Dispensationalism of Darby, Chafer, Scofield, Ryrie, and Walvoord, from what I know do have the distinction between Israel from the Church and an eternal separation of Israei from the Church as paramount and foundational tenets of their theology that must be kept in view whenever interpreting Scripture. You may not think this way. As with any theological viewpoint, there is a continuum of which people of that theology fall. Your view about Israel still having some promises for God to fulfill with them is a tenet of dispensationalism and not of covenant theology. But you may not adhere to the tenet of keeping Israel and the Church separate as Darby taught.

It was my understanding that Jema was asking for information about dispensationalism and covenant theology.

I did not mean to misrepresent you in any way. Thanks for clarifying.

As to your questions, I don't think it would be helpful for me to get in a discussion on them, not because I think we probably disagree, but because I think that there are better resources than this forum to explore such questions as an individual.

I will certainly keep them in mind and seek to answer them for myself privately.

Hi Adam.

I wouldn't say God weigh one sin against another.

I'd rather say the weight of sin/penalty is on us.

It's never permitted and repentance is seeing and agreeing with God on the incurable ungenerated heart apart from God's indwelling spirit.

With Christ spirit we won't continue in sin but yet if we say we have no sin we lie.

Sin still exists in us.

You can take a deaf blind baby and tie him up a his life until death. He's still flesh and there's no good thing in the flesh. He still has that ungenerated heart.

He will still need mercy.

Paul said in Romans 7:15-25 "For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

God bless.

Hi Gigi.

You said I represents the Dispensational point of view.

I wouldn't be so quick to say that being that other dispensationalist may disagree. ( All don't have the same views.)

So you may falsely assign a view on someone by labeling and grouping.

For instance; You said "it teaches that when Israel is spoken of in Scripture it is always ethnic, national Israel. Also it teaches that the Church and the Jews are always to be kept distinct from one another forever."

What you should have said is that S Spencer believes God is not through with the nation Israel and there's unfulfilled promises to Abraham and David concerning them that will be fulfilled literally.

Now if "according you" that's dispensationalism, then according to your interpretation of it that you're right. On that basis only!

I only speak for me, You speak for covenant theology as you said but neither do the hold the same views as a whole.

To see where we differ we would have to examine the covenants.

The covenants ( to Israel ) differ from the promise (from Israel.)

Here's a exercise that I would like to present. This exercise is not to promote a eschatological viewpoint but to give understanding how one uses hermeneutics (the branch of knowledge that deals with interpretation, especially of the Bible or literary texts.) when forming eschatological views.

This exercise is that it will give you a chance to examine your approach to scripture and again it's not intended to promote eschatological views, It's your approach to scripture as a whole.

Here's a few questions to consider. Does God mean what he says? Does God change his mind? And last but not least, what is God saying?

God bless.

Jimbob,

Thanks for sharing your view. For the second time, I am done with this particular discussion. If there's another topic we can discuss, I would be more than happy to converse with you.

Have a great evening!

First question. The church of Philadelphia and Smyrna taught the same. That is "Behold, I will make them of the 'synagogue of Satan,' which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie;' behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." These are the Kenites (offspring of Cane) they were keeping books for Juda and first mention in 1st Chronicles 2:55. And you will fine that Christ would say the same to Smyrna: Rev. 2:9 "I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan." Next. There are many churches in America that are called Philadelphia. A person would have to visit them to find out what they teach. Next. No one should tell anyone where to go to church. You and our Father (God) must decide that. A pastor that teaches God's word verse by verse and chapter by chapter is a good place to start.

It's interesting how easy it is for us all , who are reading the exact same words , to believe that they mean something different , even when it's just a short clear command . I have always believed that to bear false witness , is to say that you saw ( witnessed ) someone do something that you didn't see , or conversely to say that you didn't see ( witness ) someone do something ,when in fact you did see them do it . For me the key word is witness , which I take to mean to see . It's no wonder we all find it so easy to disagree with each other :) . Today , as I walked into my local store , an assistant was following close behind a young man and accusing him of stealing some detergent and having it in his rucksack . The assistant was a middle aged lady . The young man was denying it as he walked out of the store and the lady wasn't able to stop him . I sidestepped them both . Plenty of times I have seen people shoplifting and I haven't stopped them . There isn't ever an assistant nearby for me to tell and I'm not prepared to risk physical injury over some toilet paper or a chicken . Once I witnessed a young lady being caught in the supermarket and I offered to pay for the things that she had stolen but the store wouldn't allow me . I always feel that if someone is resorting to shoplifting then they must be in very desperate circumstances . Maybe I'm too soft but I just feel that I can't add to a person's difficulties by helping them to be in even more trouble than they are obviously already in . Once I had to be in a very tough part of town and I saw a child ( maybe twelve years old ) selling herself on the street . I reported this to the police immediately and waited for them to come and collect her . There are some things that I can't ignore . I guess we all have to go with our own consciences .

Jema,

Pt. 3

Romans 10 3 says that Israel was ignorant of God's righteousness (in Christ) and sought to establish their own righteousness and did not submit themselves to the righteousness of God (in Christ).

Rom. 11 begins by saying: "Has God cast away His people (Israel)? vs. 2 God has not cast away His people HE FOREKNEW."

Vs. 5 says that God has preserved a REMNANT of Israel that is of election by grace. So Paul says that only those of the remnant of Israel will be saved. Vs. 7 says that Israel as a whole have not attained that which they seeketh (righteousness before God), but those that are elected (the remnant) have received .., the rest being blinded. But there is a promise of God saving those of Israel who are of election.

In 1 Peter 1:9 Peter says that believers in Jesus are "a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people.". Here Peter is using terminology that was once used for Israel ( dt. 7:16; 10:15) to equate the church with Israel.

Covenant theology does not say that Israel (or the Jews are replaced by the Church, but that all of the promises given to the nation through Abraham are expressly fulfilled in Jesus Christ, who is perfect ethnic Israel and perfect SPIRITUAL Israel in one person. All of the promises of God are "YES" in Jesus ( 2 Cor. 1:20). All that God promised to Israel are fulfilled in Christ. ( Gal. 3:19, Therefore, all believers are heirs of these promises that were made to Israel. Jesus and the Church are the continuation of TRUE Israel. Any Israelite who believes in Jesus is a true Israelite, ( Rom. 9:6-7). Paul says in the discourse of the two olive trees in Rom. 11, that those Israelites who did not believe were cut off of the root (that is holy, meaning Jesus), true Israel) and those gentiles that believe will be grafted into the root. And also, if those Israelites (Jews) who are in unbelief turn to Jesus and believe.....cont.

Gal 3:8

Jema, I write all of this because Paul speaks so

Jema Thats a good question. In ( Mt. 21:23) the chief priests and elder of the people came unto him as he was teaching. So the words spoken by Jesus in ( Mt. 21:42-43) where spoken to them. v43 Tells us "The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof" (What is the greatest Christian Nation in the world? The USA!) What many call the lost tribes of Israel are not lost they are exactly where God placed them or scattered them for the End-times. ( Jer. 50:17) Tells us (Israel) is a scattered sheep". The word (Israel) is #3478; it means he will rule (as) God; a symbolic name of Jacob, also typically ((of his posterity)). His posterity are the 12 tribes. (Israel) in the Lastdays are the tribes, the sons of Jacob or their bloodlines (which is his posterity) In ( Rev. 7:3-8) We see 12,000 from each tribe sealed, and they are called "all the tribes of the children of Israel". The Jews do not believe Jesus is the Son of God, ( Rom. 8:14-16) "For as many as are lead by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God". The Jews are not being lead by the Spirit of God, then or now. Now the tribe of Ephraim got the double Blessing in ( Gen. 48:16-20) The word (nations) in v19 is #1342; it means to mount up, in general to rise (fig) be majestic, gloriously, grow up, increase, be risen, triumph. (That is the USA, in which the land received the double blessing) Now in ( Deuteronomy. 33:13-17) It shows us the blessings of the land of Joseph which was passed down to Ephraim. Which is the greatest Christian Nation in the world. The only thing today that can save one is a Belief in the Son of God, Jesus Christ. The Jews do not Believe. The posterity of Israel which is the 12 tribes do Believe. Many will disagree with this, but it is what I see from the Word of God. Blessings Jema.

Jema,

Pt. 2

In John 8:56, Jesus said that Abraham rejoiced to see my (Jesus') day. Abraham knew that the promise God made to him concerning his seed was a prophecy of Jesus, the Seed, promised. Abraham knew that Isaac was a fulfillment of the promise, but also knew that Isaac was foreshadowing Jesus, the Messiah, the true Israel of God because the gospel was preached to Abraham in advance (I'll get you the Scripture citation later).

In Rom. 9:1-6 Paul speaks of his desire for his ethnic people to be saved because of the heritage they received: the covenants, the law, service to God, the promises, and from whom, concerning the fleshy lineage, Christ came (vs.4-5). In vs 6-8 speaks that not all who are of (ethnic) Israel are of Israel (Christ), neither because they are sons of Abraham in the flesh, are they children (of God), but the children of the promise (of Christ) are counted as seed.

Verses 22-27 speaks of God preparing before creation the vessels of His mercy created for Hiis glory and to receive glory. Then Paul says: Even us, not the Jews only but also gentiles citing Hosea 2:23 that God will call those people who are not my people my people and her beloved , which was not beloved (meaning those who are in Christ-the Church) who are now God's people, the children of the living God. That's us!

Verse 27 speaks of Israel as being as many as the sands of the sea, yet only a remnant of ethnic Israel will be saved. And this remnant are those who believe in Jesus. Verse 30-32 speaks of the gentiles who followed not after righteousness from keeping the law have attained righteousness by faith. And Israel, who tried to attain righteousness by keeping the law did not attain righteousness through the law, did not, because they sought righteousness in law-keeping and not in Christ by faith.

Chapter 10 begins with Paul expressing his heartfelt desire and prayer is for Israel to be saved. ....cont.

Hi Lisanne,

My understanding is, the woman in Revelation 12 is Israel, Genesis 37:9. The woman brought forth a man child who was to rule all nations, this is Jesus, Rev. 2:27 Rev. 19:15. Jesus will return to Israel, Zech. 14:4 Isaiah 11:11-12 Jeremiah 23:3-8 Ezekiel 37:21-25 Rev. 14:1.

Please do not take offense, Robert Breaker is interesting but like I said before some of the things do not line up. Like the Rabbi says 10 jubilees until the Messiah comes and that is calculated to the year 2017. How can that be a sign of what Trump did by moving our embassy to Jerusalem?

My understanding of what John saw in Revelation 12, was the woman, a dragon, and a war in heaven. The woman is Israel who brought forth Jesus, Jesus ascended back to heaven and is on the right side of the Father on the throne, this was almost 2000 years ago. The dragon is Satan, and the war that Satan and his angels are cast down out of heaven to earth and no more place in heaven for them, this is in our future, this will happen when the fulness of the Gentiles become in Romans 11:25.

So, if part of Revelation 12 is in our past, the way Breaker used the images in Rev. 12 to me does not fit. I hope this makes sense and is not offensive. You may have received good information from his video that helps your study.

God bless,

RLW

Hello Jema

S, Spencer has responded. He represents the Dispensational point of view. It teaches that when Israel is spoken of in Scripture it is always ethnic, national Israel. Also it teaches that the Church and the Jews are always to be kept distinct from one another forever.

I do not adhere to the dispensational theological viewpoint about Israel and the Church. I hold more to the Covenant Theology view concerning Israel and the Church. This view states that in the Old Testament and under the Old Covenant Israel is most often addressing ethnic, national Israel, excepting that some Scriptures are speaking prophetically about Jesus. The nation of Israel under the Old Covenant is a type or shadow of what was to come in the New Testament and New Covenant of Jesus.

In the New Testament and New Covenant, Jesus is the completion of the Old Testament and Old Covenant. He is the "Seed" promised to Abraham in Ge. 17:7 as Paul tells us in Gal. 3:16. Further in chapter 3 Paul speaks of those who believe in Jesus as being children of God (which is the same thing said of ethnic Israel in the Old Covenant) ( Gal. 3:26). Because we have put on Christ through our baptism (vs. 27), in Him there is neither Jew nor Greek (Gentile) for all believers are one in Christ (vs. 28) and therefore, if we be Christ's then we are Abraham's seed (Israel) and heirs according to the promise (to Abraham in Gen. 17:7)

Gal. 4:24-25 speaks of the Jews (Jerusalem) as being in bondage to Judaism (the Law) being of Mt. Sinai and of bondage to the Law given. But in vs. 26-31 speaks of the Church as the New Jerusalem, of Isaac, children of the promise given to Abraham. Verse 30 says that the children of the bond woman (ethnic Israel under the law of Moses) is cast out and the children of the promise (vs, 30) (the Church of the New Covenant in Christ, the promised Seed) are heirs of the promises to Abraham. We (the church) are heirs to what was promised to the heir of Abraham, who is Jesus.

cont.

Thanx, It's always nice to get encouragement. Have a blessed day and stay strong in Christ Jema.!

Yes, S. Spencer,

I meant to write John 3:22-23. Thanks for catching that.

Jesse I am sorry if I offended you. Your words Jesse "Unless you are trying to trip me up, you should know by now that I believe in a Pre-Tribulation rapture of the church. So, because of my position on this, my answer to you would be that the 7-year Tribulation BEGINS ONCE THE CHURCH IS REMOVED, ( Mt. 24:21) is not the beginning of the 7-year Tribulation. ((The beginning of the 7-year Tribulation BEGINS AT ( Mt. 24:4) the mid-point is a ( Mt. 24:15) and the last 3 1/2 years (Great Tribulation) starts at ( Mt. 24:16)" You said The 7-year Tribulation begins once the church is removed, The beginning of the 7-year Tribulation begins at ( Mt. 24:4) If you believe the 7-year Tribulation (starts) with the removal of the church and you say the 7-year Tribulation begins at ( Mt. 24:4) Then that would have to be the time the church would be removed, Right? Matthew did mention the rapture of the church Jesse in ( Mt. 24:29-31) you just have that confused as being the return of Christ to the earth. He does not return to the earth then He returns to the earth in ( Rev. 19:11-16) Any place the Bible speaks of Jesus "coming in the clouds" its the rapture, or the catching away of the church. You will not see those words in the return of Jesus Christ riding a white horse because He returns to the earth to start His 1000 year reign. Jesus was answering a question about the events that would be taking place, or the sign of His coming in ( Mt. 24:3) His coming? ( 1Thess. 4:15) calls it (("the coming of the Lord")) then ( 1 Thess. 4:16-17) (The #1 pre-tribulation rapture verse) v17 Believers are caught up to meet the Lord in the clouds. This is the coming of the Lord Jesse. The question they asked Him? ( Mt. 24:3) "what shall be the sign of thy coming" Paul didn't mention the tribulation, or the wrath of God when he told of those who are "caught up to meet the Lord in the clouds" because he wasn't answering a question about Christ's return like Jesus was. I mean no offence Jesse. Blessings.

Cindy, I will pray for Renay.

Thank you for the input. I think most would be willing to make up a story to protect someone (violate do not bear false witness command), yet, I see no scripture saying this is ok to do. Imagine an old ex who just got out of prison at your doorstep and you him she doesn't live there anymore- Are we just assuming it's ok to lie based on the world's standards or is there something in the Bible that indicates lying isn't as bad as harm to a loved one?

I wouldn't hesitate to lie to some one in order to protect some one else from physical harm . God knows our hearts and our motivations and we must trust Him to judge us with righteousness and also mercy .

Concerning Saul's "obsession" with killing David.

It began with envy after David slew Goliath; "Saul hath slain his thousands, David hath slain his ten thousands."

Later, God gave Saul an evil spirit. I Samuel 16:14-23

Hi Adam.

If I had to face a situation like that I have what you might call a premeditated scenario that involves a lie.

"If I saw this killer coming and don't have time to hide but was able to hide my wife and lie about her whereabouts at the present time I certainly would.

I even have the hiding place already picked out and the lie prepared.

So that lie and intent for this particular situation is already in me.

So the question I would ask is, is this premeditated lie sin before or after the fact? "There's no doubt I'm going to do it "

I'm not granted that amount of faith at the present.

HOWEVER!

God may grace me with the faith I need for the moment and I would certainly be praying it.

This is the dilemma in living in such a wicked world with only a measure of the spirit and this coward sinful flesh.

This reminds me of Peter when he denied the Lord to stay alive.

"At the time he wasn't spirit filled."

Christ told him how he would glorify him by his death in John 21:18-19.

When he was indwelled and strengthened by the Spirit he preached Christ boldly and was made an Apostle to the very people he feared.

God bless.

8. The Church of Philadelphia in revelation which is the faithful church does it exist in America How do I find a pastor who meets all the biblical qualifications to preach and how do I find a church who is faithful to Christ who keeps Christ word and have not denied his name."

1.When Jesus says in John 5:24 "Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. When he says believes him who sent me is he talking about the father that sent Jesus or God that sent Jesus.

2. In Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. What is the will of the father.

3. How do I understand all of the parables of Jesus Christ.

4. When I pray to repent am I praying to jesus for forgivness or to the father for forgivness and is my whole life in prayer to the father, to jesus or to the holy spirit?

5. How do I know if jesus knows me? "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

6. How do I know if my name is in the book of life?

7. "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of jthe Son of Man and drink his blood, you khave no life in you. 54 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood lhas eternal life, and mI will raise him up on the last day. 55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood nabides in me, and I in him. 57 As othe living Father psent me, and qI live because of the Father, so whoever feeds on me, he also will live because of me. What does this mean?

8. The Church of Philadelphia in revelation which is the faithful church does it exist in America How do I find a pastor who meets all the bibical qualitfications to preach and how do I find a church who is faithul to christ who keeps christ word and have not denied his name.

Hi Jema.

That's a great question.

Eschatology is shaped around this topic. Also Dispensationalism and covenant theology is tested by this in a sense.

This is something I've been wanting to get to for some time now but I've been to busy.

Thanks for bringing this up.

Some say God is done with Israel and the unfulfilled old testament promises was fulfilled in the Church.

And there's others weren't comfortable with that and say those promises was made to the church not " The Nation Israel."

I would direct both of these groups to Isaiah 41:8-9.

"But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.

Thou whom I have taken from the ends of the earth, and called thee from the chief men thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant; I have chosen thee, and not cast thee away. ( Seed in this verse is not used in the way it's used in Genesis 22:18.) The seed in Genesis 22:18 relates to a promise of Christ.

Seed in Isaiah 41:8 relates to a nation whom that promised seed would come.

You will see the interpretation of these verses moved around to shape or hold on to a certain espoused eschatology.

When it comes to identifying a people there's three groups as seen in 1 Corinthians 10:32. ( Jews, Gentiles and the Church. )

The rolls and promises to these groups are distinct. Understanding that is important. .

Taking Gods promises literally is also important.

More on this later.

God bless.