Bible Discussion Replies PAGE 287

  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Mark (Part 2):

    Mark 1:9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.

    Please notice the prepositional phrase "in those days." The King James translation retains it, but some of the others change it. But it is actually a phrase that is making reference to Jewish feast days. So, when you see the phrase "in those days," it is referring to a Jewish feast day.

    In Luke Chapter 2, it says "In those days," a decree went out for all to be taxed. So that's a clue to us that when Jesus was born, He was born during a Jewish feast. The town was crowded not because the people had to come and register, but because they were in town for the feast of Tabernacles. And Bethlehem was a staging area where people would stay as they would come and go in and out of Jerusalem.

    I am sharing this because it adds more importance and meaning, even to the birth of Christ that He would come, because in the midst of the feast of Tabernacles, they would celebrate God dwelling with us, and that is when Jesus was born. So, "In those days," because we are in the days of TESHUVA, but it says that in those days, Jesus came down from Nazareth, and He was baptized by John in the Jordan.

    Mark 1:17 - And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.

    The term "after me" is literally behind me. It is the word OPISO in Greek. This verse literally reads "Come ye behind me." Jesus points this out later that the proper position in following Christ is behind Him.

    But notice what He says, two things:

    He says first of all, "I will make you." Jesus is the one who makes us to be what He wants us to be. "I will make you to become." This shows a process. These are important words. Jesus says, "I will make you to become fishers of men." This is a play on words. You are fishermen, but I'm going to make you fishers of men.
  • Jesse - 1 year ago
    "Biblical Greek Perspectives."

    Mark (Part 1):

    Before I begin sharing these Greek/English text comparisons on Mark's gospel, I want to point out that there are several words we see in Mark such as "Straightway," "Forthwith," and "Anon." These are all one Greek word that means immediately. The translators could have saved us some time looking up these words by translating the Greek word EUTHEOS as immediately.

    Mark 1:1 - The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

    I want to share a technical point in Verse 1. The term "the beginning" in this verse is not in the original language. There is no word "the" in the Greek text. It's just beginning of the gospel. It is the word ARCHAE, but it is different than what is used in John 1:1 which says, "in beginning."

    Here in Mark, he just says "beginning," and that is it. It is just a noun, a word. It is not the same as John 1:1, but actually ARCHAE represents this Hebrew word TECHILA. TECHILA means the first stage. So, when he says the beginning of the gospel, he is saying I'm presenting to you the first stage. I am not going to talk about His birth or anything else. I'm going to begin the gospel of Jesus Christ at this point.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Momsage,

    Thank you very much for the kind reply. No need for apology. We all get grumpy and fatigued from time to time. Grumpy and fatigued are both fleshly terms and sometimes we let our flesh get the best of us. It happens to us all. It's something we cannot avoid. At this time, I choose not to ask any more questions.

    I am happy to hear that you found the studies I posted on Matthew. I have finished going through Mark and will start posting them tonight. I will be posting them as a "New Comment" so you won't see them in your email. As I did with Matthew, I am going to title the Mark studies as Biblical Greek Perspectives, so that is how you will find them.

    Blessings to you, and I hope you have a great evening!
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Derek.

    You can distance yourself from someone but yet still be close.

    I would distance myself from any sinful activity he or she is doing but I would still try to witness to them.

    If you find forgiveness hard to do I would try having mercy them.

    It's hard to advise from the outside on your situation with this person but we are to consider ourselves and our relationship to the Lord.

    Jesus bore our sins while we were yet sinners!

    Romans 5:6-8 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

    For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.

    But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless
  • Jaz - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thanks for clearing that up for me Jesse . God bless .
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Matt.5:18 "That God may be in all" (1 of 2)

    "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

    This is part of the Sermon on the Mount which the Spirit sets against a mountain.(5:1) Jesus goes to this mountain and his disciples 'came unto him.' Jesus was there as fulfilment of the word, "that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet" and the blessings he presents there as the 'only begotten Son' sent by his Father is what the everlasting covenant with which the Spirit opened the Bible. He was with God and he is the Man component. The Word or the Law we see in the Gospel of John, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God./The same was in the beginning with God." It is significant that he declares emphatically that the Law shall be fulfilled in v.18. So we can see from the emblem of the mountain, the Spirit instructs he as the stone cut not with hands came from the Mountain of God and shall stop only with Zion the holy habitation of God. Not a jot or tittle refers to the little ones Jesus referred often, those who are blessed and for whom he has promised a kingdom as well.""for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom."( Luke 12:32). What is popularly called as the Beatitudes is the basis of the Fellowship of God with Man. In him whosoever heard the call is blessed. One may go through John 1:1-2 and understand the methodology of His calling. Fellowship of God and Man is on the basis that Man who was in the beginning with God. God decreed the day for his Son has this tag 'unto this day' and 'in that day' which refers the day that God may be in all. 1 Cor.15:20-28

    Consider this saying, "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you." The outpouring of the Holy Spirit was for the Word to be fulfilled in the Man component.
  • Jaz - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Dear Sarah , I am so sorry for you . I am very fortunate to live in a country where health care is provided by the government , for everyone and every condition , paid for through taxes . I can't imagine what it must be like to be ill but not able to see a doctor because you don't have any money , you have my heartfelt sympathy . Are there no charities that can help you ? No friends or family ? No social services ? I pray to God that you will be healed and healthy very soon . Some Christians don't ever see a doctor because they believe it is offensive to God to do so . They are free to feel that way but I don't agree . Any medical wisdom is given by God , God who has , in His creation , provided so many things that can cure illnesses and diseases , plants etc . God gives us knowledge for good but sadly we sometimes abuse that knowledge and use it in despicable ways .

    Please don't despair and don't give up , try to find a charity that might help you , maybe get your friends and family to try to do something to raise the money that you need , maybe ask your local church to get involved ? If you stay strong and be determined , ask God every day for help and guidance and thank Him always for everything that He has already done for you . Most of all , try not to be afraid , your God is with you . He really is and you must believe that He is and talk to Him every day through Christ our Sinless High Priest .

    Don't give up and don't fear , nothing can come between you and your Heavenly Father , He is yours and you are His , always .
  • Jaz - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello Derek , you might get lots of different answers to your question ,which isn't necessarily a bad thing . I can only say what forgiveness means to me .

    Firstly , someone has to offend me for there to be anything for me to forgive them for . You spoke of worldly people ? Is that something that requires your forgiveness ? If that's the case then you have a lot of people to forgive .

    To me forgiveness means , that if someone has deliberately and knowingly done something very unpleasant to me , I must not take vengeance and I must let it go and not hold it against them in any way ,shape or form . Is it my place to forgive someone for doing something bad to someone else other than myself ? After thinking about this very carefully , I've decided that it's not my place . The offence wasn't against me so it's not for me to forgive . Image if someone stole your friend's car and your friend forgave them but you didn't . Does that seem right ? Not to me it doesn't . It wasn't my car that was stolen so I'm not the victim . The grudge is not mine to hold on to .

    In my life I have been very badly treated by a few people , all of whom I have forgiven but , the memories do still linger . That's the hardest part , forgetting .

    Also , I found it much easier to forgive someone that I love because I love them but strangely , it's also easy to forgive those that I don't love because I don't love them . The best aspect of forgiving others , for me , is how liberating it is not to hold on to any anger or bitterness in my heart . To be free of nasty thoughts or feelings toward anyone . It's a good feeling . I hope others on here will answer you also , it's a good topic of conversation so let's hear what others have to say .
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen Brother!

    God bless.
  • Oseas - 1 year ago
    The Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand?

    My Lord JESUS, Christ JESUS, make it very clear, saying: John 15:

    Every branch in me that beareth not fruit He - the Father - taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, He purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

    If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
  • Derek - 1 year ago
    Forgiveness

    I distance myself when I sense someone is being untruthful or worldly. I take note of it. i also want to be forgiving, because Jesus says we won't be forgiven if we don't forgive others.

    Does forgiving mean I need to continue a relationship with them and forget they were worldly- what does forgiving actually mean?
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother S Spencer,

    Thanks, got it, the veil is an image of a spiritual blind spot that will not be lifted until the return of Jesus, Romans 11:16-25. The old covenant mediated through Moses had its glory and the veil Paul speaks of prevents them from seeing the old had an end. I feel it was mainly the leaders of Jerusalem because the beginning of the Church was the lost sheep of Israel who Jesus first came for before the gospel was sent to the Gentiles.

    In the future, whether it be short or many years, the Gentile's time will end, and the branches will be grafted back in that were broken off for us. When Jesus returns, the battle of Armageddon, and Satan is locked in the pit, the kingdom will be set up.

    Thanks, brother I know you are busy.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Matt.1:1 "Generation of Jesus Christ" (2 of 2)

    When Jesus declares, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me,"( John 14:6) He is the way for the day of Regeneration. The same day, one is tagged day of salvation and the other end of Regeneration which is 'from everlasting to everlasting.' The divine Will is perfect to which his holiness does not allow any correction of deletion. God's calling and gifts are irrevocable so God sanctifies the seventh day. (Ge.2:1-3) Under the covenant man who enters the day Seven is blessed, to which St Paul alludes,"hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ."(Ep.1:3-4)

    "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens," (Ge.2:4) The Word spoken by God is a continual process and it shall not return to him incomplete or void. So our fulness is not marked by generation any other than that of the Son. " In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee." (Is.49:8) The 'now' in this verse refers to will of God, "Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation."(2 Co.6:2) Day of salvation applies to us and according to the earth time. "while it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation." In the day of Salvation Israel had to make a choice as Saul /Paul had to.

    "And as he (Saul) journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:/And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?/And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest."(Ac.9:3-5)
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen Brother Jesse!
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Matt.1:1 "Generation of Jesus" (1 of 2)

    While studying the volume we have in Jesus, is that we are a new creation. We have a birth according to time and place. As a proof Apostle Peter testifies David for an example. "Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day." (Ac.2:29) Evangelist Matthew begins his Gospel by stating the generation of Jesus, that he is the son of David. In the Psalm David refers to him as the Lord, and 'my king'. "Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion./I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee." This knowledge of God and Man is what defines the generation of Jesus Christ. He is the man component co-eternal with God. The Word supplied and David declares it as true. It is called 'this day' which is established as 'Amen' and the Spirit while organizing the God document gives it with a tag,"unto this day".

    Accordingly the host of angel appearing to the shepherds announces, "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord./ And this shall be a sign unto you." ( Luke 2:11-12) The word concerning his birth as cited in the Psalm was fulfilled. The sign refers to its fulfilment.

    In the context of the generation let us define the day from the life of David, his city and his grave are physical markers and it is part Israel as a nation. Jesus as his son also testified, "For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end."( Luke 22:37-39). This 'day' is where the things that are written by the Word before the worlds began are accomplished. When Jesus declares, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me,"( John 14:4) He is the way for the day of Regeneration. The same day, one is tagged day of salvation
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Matt.12:34 "Generation of vipers"

    "O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh."

    In order to understand what it means by our calling we begin with our heart. "From the place of his habitation he looketh upon all the inhabitants of the earth./He fashioneth their hearts alike."(Ps.33:14-15) When God has breathed into the nostrils of one he has done equally with all. However how each one responds to it is different. They have works as the Pharisees would seek a sign from Jesus. Are they seeking holiness or merely out of curiosity? As with the Pharisee in the Parable he has his works to show in order to justify himself. Before men they certainly sound holy as we have those play racial tropes and slurs to justify themselves. What does God speak of their fasts and prayers? " Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?"(Is.58:6)

    So our estimation of our own worth does not count.

    So we speak of heart as God sees it, can only by the word, which was with God. ( John 1:1) Jesus Christ, the word become flesh in us is where we are counted as being part of the generation of Jesus Christ. St Matthew refers to the Gospel as the book of the generation of Jesus Christ. "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world," gives us a beginning. Christ dwelling in us by faith consequently gives us volume. Without Christ how we judge ourselves is no different than the Pharisee. Those who "trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others" are in the same cesspool of their hypocrisy. White Evangelicals or Ethnic minorities or whoever serve as false witness to despise the other belongs to the generation of vipers. Vipers are cannibals and in the church also we see them devouring each other on the basis of race and colour.
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Re.5:13 "Heard I saying"

    "And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever."

    John's testimony is not second hand but what he heard with his ears. Volume of a believer called under the covenant is not three dimensional but must include time as well. That is what the God document signifies. Comparing Greek Aramaic and Hebrew texts are well and good but without the element of faith accepting the many promises of God it is like taking an online course in swimming without ever hitting the water. Amazing, isn't it? "Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth," is merely on paper without changing your life accordingly. "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies./These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man."(Matt.15:19-20) This is what Jesus taught as well lived during his earthly ministry. It is an example for us to live by. He was among men but his heart was in heavenly places. How do we know it? Jesus leaving his anonymous years at Nazareth he settles down in Capernaum, according to the word of God, and Evangelist Matthew says," From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."(4:17). He saw the same light others saw from where sat, in heavenly place, and the sign was unmistakeable, "The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.." This is what volume of a child of God signals. Led by the Spirit the word of God takes on an exceptional clarity, as some one rapping on the door and that cannot be put of. "For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."(Matt.6:21)
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Momsage,

    By the time you receive this, Part 1 of the Matthew Studies will probably be found on Page 20. The way to get to page 20 is to scroll down to the bottom of the page to where it says, "Next Discussion Page." You may have to click on that a couple of times to get to page 20. Please know that Part 1 will not remain on Page 20 for too long.

    Below are the pages you will find these studies:

    (Page 20) - Part 1 through Part 7

    (Page 19) - Part 8

    (Page 18) - Part 9 through Part 13

    (Page 17) - Part 14 through Part 18

    (Page 16) - Part 20 through Part 24

    (Page 14) - Part 25 and Part 27

    (Page 13) - Part 28 through Part 37

    (Page 11) - Part 19 and Part 26

    Again, please know that these pages will shift down over time. If I might suggest to you, once you find Part 1, I would copy and paste it onto a separate Word document, and then copy Page 2, Page 3, and so on until you have copied and save all 37 Parts. This will make them easier to find since the pages I have given you are going to keep on shifting with more things being continuously added to Page 1, causing everything else to shift further away.

    I hope this helps. God Bless!!!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother Spencer,

    Thank you! One thing I believe is a certain is that when Jesus does come back, every Jew is going to recognize Him as their Messiah, the one they crucified. Those who rejected Him back then are going to realize they made a mistake.

    Blessings!
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    False Peace part 3

    1 Thessalonians 5:3 KJV: For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

    Daniel 11:43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

    Isaiah 10:7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.

    When the Antichrist arrives; perhaps he doesn't even realize what his destiny is or how far Satan will lead him into destruction at the outset. Prophecy in Daniel mentions his flattery as well as understanding "dark sentences" or the occult. Dividing the land for gain also shows how everyone gets a piece of the action in the Daniel 9:27 covenant; which certainly sounds like some of the concepts going on today to get the Saudis involved as well as other nations to make the borders acceptable to all with the reconfigurations planned.

    Going back to our lives today; we could look simply at food and clothing ( 1 Tim. 6:8) and be content (notice it doesn't even mention shelter). However as Paul stated he learned to be content in want as well as plenty ( Philippians 4:11-13). With peace of course we have joy; so that Paul and Silas could sing and pray joyfully in shackled chains ( Acts 16:25-26). The Lord gave them a quick deliverance at that point; with the jailor and his family coming to faith and being baptized before the authorities released them the next day along with Paul's insistence on escort out since they were Roman citizens. His later imprisonments would be longer although he had much latitude in leading other prisoners; and eventually of course he was martyred.

    We are seated in heavenly places (Hebrews I think). We have peace the world can't have ( John 14:27). Let us warn others about false peace and avoid the pitfalls ourselves.
  • S Spencer - 1 year ago
    Brother Ronald.

    Sorry, I should have proof read this.

    Here's a edited version.

    The sanctuary in question was a sanctuary where the Jews performed the ministry given to them by the Lord.

    Everything about the tabernacle, the ministry and the rituals was given to the Jews only and was to be performed in Jerusalem.

    If a Gentile wanted to serve he had to become a proselyte.

    In the old testament, "by the nation Israel" God showed the world there was a true and LIVING GOD who provides.

    He used them to make his name great amongst the Nations and he's still doing that, whether by chastening them or blessing them.

    He performed his promises and covenants and there's more to come.

    God also, by that nation showed the depravity of man apart from a New birth or regenerated HEART.

    Everything about that ministry pointed to our fallen nature and the need for Jesus.

    Their offerings and rituals ect.. pointed towards Christ. THAT WAS ITS GLORY. which glory was to be done away with:

    However, That ministry was called the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones.

    2 Corinthians 3:9 reads, "For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

    (Look at verse 10) 3:10FOR EVEN THAT WHICH WAS MADE GLORIOUS HAD NO GLORY IN THIS RESPECT, by reason of the glory that excelleth.

    The ministration of death couldn't make you righteous!

    Read 2 Corinthians 3:13-14. and notice their blindness .

    (They were blinded when Moses read to them!)

    Verse 15) But even unto this day, when Moses is read, THE VAIL IS UPON THEIR HEART.

    Verse 16) Important verse..

    "Nevertheless WHEN IT SHALL TURN TO THE LORD, the vail shall be taken away.

    When what "shall turn to the Lord? Their heart!!

    When their heart shall turn to the Lord the veil shall be taken away.

    Again im sorry for such a mess.

    I'm working tonight and multitasking.

    Blessings
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you brother S Spencer,

    Not sure how to reply, that is above my head.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother Ronald.

    The sanctuary in question was a sanctuary where the Jews performed the ministry given to them by the Lord.

    Everything about the tabernacle, the ministry and the rituals was given to the Jews only and was to be performed in Jerusalem.

    If a Gentile wanted to serve he had to become a proselyte.

    In the old testament "that nation" God showed the world there was a true and LIVING GOD who provides. He used them to make his name great amongst the Nations and he's still doing that, whether by chastening them or blessing them.

    He performed his promises and covenants and there's more to come.

    God also, by that nation the depravity of man apart from a New birth or regenerated HEART.

    Everything about that ministry pointed to our fallen nature and the need for Jesus. There offerings and rituals ect.. pointed towards Christ. THAT WAS IT'S GLORY. which glory was to be done away:

    However, That ministry was called the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones.

    2 Corinthians 3:9 reads, "For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

    (Look at verse 10) 3:10FOR EVEN THAT WHICH WAS MADE GLORIOUS HAD NO GLORY IN THIS RESPECT, by reason of the glory that excelleth.

    The ministration of death couldn't make you righteous!

    read 2 Corinthians 3:13-14. and notice their blindness.

    They were blinded when Moses read to them!

    Verse 15) But even unto this day, when Moses is read, THE VAIL IS UPON THEIR HEART.

    Verse 16) Important verse..

    "Nevertheless WHEN IT SHALL TURN TO THE LORD, the vail shall be taken away.

    When what "shall turn to the Lord? Their heart!!

    When their heart shall turn to the Lord the veil shall be taken away.

    God bless.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello Jaz,

    Thank you for the question, and it is nice to speak with you again. I totally understand your question on this. It is true that the Jews rejected Jesus as their Messiah when He was here the first time. Even today, Orthodox Jews still do not acknowledge Jesus as their Messiah, and they don't believe in His second coming. But since the time of Christ's resurrection to the present time, there are Messianic Jews, those Jews who have responded to the gospel message and have received Christ as their Messiah/Savior. In my post, it is the Messianic Jews that I mentioned and was referring to, not Orthodox Jews.

    Again, to this day, Orthodox Jews still do not believe Jesus is their Messiah. They're still waiting on their Messiah to come. In fact, if you or I were to ask for their view on Mark 13:32, or any verse in the New Testament for that matter, they more than likely will not want to discuss it at all since they don't believe in the NT.

    Something else to be aware of is that if you ever get the opportunity to speak to an Orthodox Jew, they will probably frown at you if you mention Old Testament to them. The term Old Testament is offensive to an Orthodox Jew because they don't believe in a New Testament. We call it the Old Testament, but they call it the Tanak (TNK), the Torah, the Neviim, and the Ketuvim, which is the Law, the Prophets, and the Writings.

    So, if you're ever speaking to an Orthodox Jew, or if you're ever in a Jewish bookstore by chance, and you're asking anything about the Old Testament, you might want to say Tanach instead.

    Again, thank you for the question. But please know that there are Messianic Jews today that have received Christ as their Messiah, and they are looking for His second coming just as we are.

    God Bless!!!
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hey S Spencer,

    I know when Jesus first came their eyes and ears were closed because the fullness of time had come, because they had gone so far away from God, judgment had been given on that generation. We see the similarity to that in Hosea, the temple was destroyed. I think we are on the same page with Matthew 23:39 as this happens with the fullness of the Gentiles.

    When Jesus returns and sets up the kingdom on earth, they will call on Him as their Messiah and king. But my understanding is Hosea 5:15 God removed his glory from the sanctuary and the city for their unwillingness to repent and return to God the punishment was the destruction of the first temple and their captivity.

    Thanks, brother,

    God bless,

    RLW
  • S Spencer - 1 year ago
    Thanks Jaz for replying and a list of those names.

    The plurality in Yehovah Elohim never refers to Angels, they don't participate in the creation.

    Isaiah 44:24 reads "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb,

    I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens ALONE; that spreadeth abroad the earth BY MYSELF;

    So in Genesis 1:1when it reads "In the beginning God/Elohim created the heaven and the earth, it doesn't refer to Angels.

    So why is Elohim used and who does this Plural name consist of?

    Throughout the creation process Elohim is used.

    This reasonably connects Jesus to this claim. John 1:1-3 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    The same was in the beginning with God.

    All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    Also in Genesis 1:26 it reads, "And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness:

    Not only did Angels "not" participate in the creation, we're not made in the image or likeness of Angels as shown in 1 Corinthians 15:44-48.

    Psalms 19:1 reads, "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

    (The creation shows God's greatness, It's his GLORY!)

    Isaiah 42:8 reads, "I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another,

    But listen to Jesus in John 17:5, "And now, O Father, GLORIFY THOU ME WITH THINE OWN SELF with the glory WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.

    God bless.
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    False Peace part 2

    Most of us should know about the first seal of Revelation; there are some Reformers who consider this to be talking of Christ not Antichrist but I won't get into that here. The Daniel 9:27 prophecy at least when I was growing up was well known in Christian circles. My theory is that someone will have to overturn the existing structure of the world in regard to the UN; NATO and other organizations. He will be the "end all" for what everyone seeks; the Jews will think he is their Messiah; the Muslims the 12th Imam; and other in the New Age and Eastern faiths some risen master or Maitreya. Eventually he will be heralded by the false wonders and signs of the False Prophet but it appears that and the deadly wound comes later at the mid point of the Tribulation.

    We could get into detail here how even some from Turkey have looked to Israel to rebuild their temple. I have conjectured about Psalm 83 and the elimination of the surrounding threats to eventually lead to the Ezekiel 38 conflict; as only then will Israel consider living in a land of "unwalled villages" ( Ezekiel 38:11). Their guard will be down after a period of time when they are convinced this Antichrist has their best wishes in mind.

    Just as the God of the Bible has held back all the catastrophic plagues and judgments of the Tribulation He has also restrained this Antichrist Beast from taking the stage and accomplishing the "confirming" of the covenant; which implies something already in the works which certainly could pertain to the Abrahamic covenant being finalized with many other nations. Whether it is that or some other document time will tell. The delusion of peace on earth is bound to come; and it seems no one is warning against it.

    The Babylon the Great religious harlot precedes the Antichrist's 42 months enforcing the mark of the beast. The Lord has to remove even the few that remain today in the compromised churches before the final fulfillment as the whore.
  • Momsage - 1 year ago
    Soft as the voice of an angel, Breathing a lesson unheard,

    Hope with a gentle persuasion, Whispers her comforting word;

    Wait till the darkness is over, Wait till life's tempest is done,,

    Hope for the sunshine tomorrow, After the shower is gone.

    Whispering hope, O how welcome Thy voice,

    Making my heart in its sorrow rejoice.

    "Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost. Romans 15:13 God Bless :)
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    False Peace

    There is no peace for the wicked ( Isaiah 48:22; 57:21) and other passages.

    If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation. ( John 11:48).

    Having explored this first passage before; I thought I would include the second for consideration. It would seem that the religious leaders were indebting themselves in what they would consider a hostile takeover of their nation because of the Gentiles not tolerating their unbelief. This was near no doubt near to the "triumphal entry" of Christ which came immediately before the crucifixion. They should have realized that God Himself through Christ would destroy the wicked when He comes to rule and reign with His heavenly armies.

    These passages remind us of today; when people wish to continue in their wickedness much like Roman society as a whole did with their pagan worship and associated sins and how every empire has fallen making our own demise a certainty. Prophetically the first seal signifies what could be described as enforced peace; or submission which is basically as Islam promises to happen in the last days under the final Imam. With the world's technology it has been hard for total control of any dictator of communication; although economic control is getting a tighter and tighter grip. The power vacuum in recent decades brings a sort of half hearted proxy war mentality to the world. This is due to the realization of mutually assured destruction with an all out nuclear conflict and a rather tepid and disorganized NATO and related groups who are trying to cobble together a large enough resistance to counter Russia who they are convinced wants to take over all of Europe eventually. It seems the internet has also been where the main emphasis has been in various platforms to gain influence of the minds of young people to various ideologies. The "trojan horse" of immigrants has certainly brought many camels in the tent
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Brother Ronald.

    In Romans 9 Paul mentions the condition of Israel (AS A NATION)

    Verses 31,32- "But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.

    Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone.

    Romans 10:16 reads But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, WHO HATH BELIEVED OUR REPORT?

    So the Gospel was preached to them! as we see in Romans 10:16-18.

    Romans 11:8 declares their position then, as well today!

    (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

    Romans 11:25-28 sums it up.

    "For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

    And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

    When Israel "as a nation" call on their Messiah and behold him as their Messiah they will call on him!

    I believe this will happen in the tribulation and that is what Hosea is speaking of.

    "I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, AND SEEK MY FACE: in their AFFLICTION they will seek me early.

    THEY WON'T BEHOLD HIM (Remain in this blinded state) untill they shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

    For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Matthew 23:39.

    God bless


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