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Have any of you ever been to this site? I am wondering if Calvary can be seen from here.

What do you think this means? "In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen."

I believe you are correct ,Isaac carries the wood just as Jesus carried his own wooden cross ,he was old enough to be scared but it seems that he quietly just obeyed his father and the ram in the thicket is just like Jesus with a crowm of thorns ,these things are very much more than coincidences ,as you say they foreshadow Christ crucifixtion ,Abraham even says that God will provide a ram for the sacrifice ,how did he know this ?Many things in the old testament are much more than coincidences ,they are there for us to use to strengthen our faith and understanding ,may God bless you with both .

This chapter really was a foreshadow of part of what Jehovah God would go through in offering his beloved son, Jesus Christ.

Hi Sacha,

That last sentence I wrote was just to put it out there. I know you did not say anything about that. It was for someone else who said "God doesn't have hands". I apologize that it came out like that.

Also me stating that I didn't want to "argue" about this topic anymore was not that you and I are arguing. You seem kind in your posts and why I wanted to reply to you.

About Abraham offering up his son to be a kind of parallel to the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ I understand. As of coarse it is not exactly the same but numerous parallels. As with others previously someone was interested in parallels to Jesus Christ being dead three days. Some parallels are with Abraham Genesis 22:4, Jonah being in the whales belly Jonah 1:17, Israel being raised on the third day Hosea 6:1-2, David not eat/drink for 3 days & nights (1 Samual 30:12.

The Holy Bible is the living Word of God. There are many, many, things deeper that we can plainly see. Although all we need is right in front of us.

So to reply to the other post you made. About not believing in the devil, not believing in "hell", or you not believing any of us are going to Heaven. As I have made this statement to another on this page. The things I have experienced, in less than two years, most people of this world would not believe. Because they are not of this physical world.

I don't want to get into a discussion about those things you stated as they are just your beliefs. I will not waste my energy going back and forth with anyone on those things. The thing that saddens me the most is you stating "you don't think any of us are going to Heaven". How can you state something like that? So you do not believe the Scriptures and the teachings therein? So it seems?

All I can say is pray to Jesus Christ to set you free and lead you to the truth. Pour your heart out to Him.

Thank you for your time and please do not take anything I wrote as harsh. It was only meant to try and help.

God Bless.

Hello brother Skip,

As your post interested me to look into this. There seems to be no exact Scripture, in the OT, of the Messiah rising on the third day. What I found was there being three parallels in the OT Jesus may have been referring to.

The First being a parallel to Abraham being commanded to sacrifice his "only" son Isaac. When hearing this his son became dead to him. Then on the third day when he was about to offer him in sacrifice the angel of the Lord stopped him. Then Isaac being alive to him again. Genesis 22:1-12

Then next being a parallel to Jonah being three days, and nights, in the whales belly. Jonah 1:17. Showing that he was not living, but had died, is Jonah crying "out of the belly of hell or "sheol"I cried". Then Jonah 2:20 where the fish spit him up and being revived, or alive, after three days.

The last is a parallel to Israel being raised on the third day. Hosea 6:1-2.

As you may know all of these things already as you are a very wise man in Scripture. I just thought to look into and post what I found to you.

Hope that may help some. God Bless you brother.

Better stay there playing with JESUS

Check out verse 13 ,Jesus is the lamb ,who was it that provided skins for Adam and Eve to wear after they had sinned ? Jesus is the lamb slain from the foundation of the world .

So true. He did indeed: the Word of God Who became the Lamb of God.

I see it as a Prophecy that Abraham made, that God would provide His self as a sacrifice.

At death, a sinner suffers a threefold separation of his being:

his body goes to the grave, his soul goes to hell (sheol), and his spirit ascends upward to God. [ Ecc 3:21]. Each sinners death loosens another wicked spirit which increases the number of spirits that war against Christians. Ghosts are demons meant to "copy" the spirit of an unbeliever. A believer (saved sinner's) spirit can't return to earth. The body goes the grave and the spirit and soul returns to God.

In the Old Testament Dispensation, upon the death of a believer, his body went to the

grave, and his soul and spirit went to Paradise, also called death and Abraham's bosom. After the Blood of Jesus was applied to the Mercy Seat in Heaven, the spirit and soul of a believer could go directly into the presence of the LORD ( II Corinthians 5:8).

Did Abraham tell Sarah what he planned to do to Isaac?

In the light of what our Lord God said thet with evil things he wouldn't test anyone and the law that was given to Noah about killing anyone, and the demand that Satan made that the hedge should be taken away from Job so that he could test him ,and Job said "should I not take what is good from Almighty God and not what is bad also" and he was given a scolding by God for saying that.

Also that the sacrifice should be on Mount Maria thus desecrating the place that the Lord God had designated for his temple and the land that he took as his portion for the seed to be take care of that produce Jesus the messiah (as Satan had won his right to be ruler of the word over Adam sin )

And by no means last the Lord said about the people passing their children through the fire ( Molach) that it has never ever come up into his heart to ask them to do that.

"Let God be found true though every man prove to be a liar".

Thank you for you reply to my first question... I was surprised it ever got to you this is all new to me and I haven't yet worked it out how to corrispond.

May the Holy Spirit be with you in all you do Dinah

Adam or rather Yet Eve broke the 1st Law That God commanded thou shalt not eat of it. So Adam had to eat of it to be with his wife (type of jesus)for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Gen.2:16-17

He eat of it and died a spiritual death that day and was stripped of his Glory coat and the eyes of them both were opened and they knew that they were naked Gen 3:7

And God judged satan and judged Eve and He judged Adam.

And gives the promise of the Seed (jesus) Genesis 3:15

Then God starts to give providence of the seed jesus unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God made coats of skins and clothed them. Genesis 3:21

The passover lamb jesus

God said in the day you eat of it you will surely die. But that day they did not die But what died that day? A Lamb died a innocent lamb that had done nothing Blood was shed and his skin take off for a covering for Adam and Eve.

The Innocent dying so the Guilty could Live The Cross

They were sentenced to death But a Lamb dies in stead of Adam and eve like. Genesis 22:13

Or we could say they died that day Because one day is with the Lord as a thousand years and no man lived a thousand years 2 Peter 3:8

But I prefer The Passover Lamb Jesus

Thank you for debating the Word of God with me I love the word of God and learning about Jesus may God bless you and your family always. A sinner saved by Grace

Read James 1:13. Then explain Genesis 22:1

Here again we see the friendship between Abraham and God. Abraham waited so long for a son from Sarah and God wants to take him away. Abraham submits after hearing clearly from God and does not argue. He just trusts God and obeys even though he does not fully understand. God himself would have been amazed at the faith and obedience of this man. "would he sacrifice his son, his only son if I ask him to", The answer was yes and God honored him for it because in the future God himself would sacrifice His only son for all the sins of the world. The only difference would be that God would actually go through with it and free mankind from the chains of sin and death by placing it all on His son. Who of us could reject such a great sacrifice and not receive Gods gift to us of "life for life...blood for blood..sinless for sin" on that cross.

This is all I could find:

Genesis 22:14

And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen.

Exodus 6:3

And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Exodus 17:15

And Moses built an altar, and called the name of it Jehovahnissi:

Judges 6:24

Then Gideon built an altar there unto the LORD, and called it Jehovahshalom: unto this day it is yet in Ophrah of the Abiezrites.

Psalms 83:18

That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

Isaiah 12:2

Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.

Isaiah 26:4

Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:

One thing that is true: Isaac contained the seed of Christ who was to be THE Sacrifice.

The reason Issac was born was that Abraham might be multiplied as the sands by th seas giving God a special ppl but natural Israel was not a righteous ppl, there was none righteous no not one and that what God wanted a righteous ppl like himself the Promise was 2 fold about a heavenly ppl coming that wd be righteounsess in all the world as the stars of heaven thus the need for a heavenly son Christ JESUS an Israel of God th Father needed a good seed to sow in his ppl thus the sower and his precious seed th field being th world humanity God so loved the world, that good seed being th WORD a much greater seed then abrahams seed resulting in a ppl that cd not sin. ( them that are BORN of God can not sin ) But the Father swore by his very self when made that PROMISE to Christ impling that the seed of christ wd resultin n God being born in a man thats y Jesus said to whom the WORD came it made them Gods ( God swore by his very self when he made that PROMISE ) impling he was gonna multiply his veryself in humanity th world. Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth Pains th world and he said this when spoke of the New Covenant . The child that comes from Christ seed is spirit thats y he said that which is born of the spirit is spriit which is the H.G. THAT Y HE REFERS TO THE H.G as the PROMISE THE H.G COMES BY HIS WORD HE SAID MEANING THE CHILD WILL COME VIA HIS SEED TH WORD AND TH WORD IS TH SEED OF GOD, thats y God swore by hisself he knew that real righteousness wd come via the seed of his Son. Thats y the Woman in rev. 12 is giving birth she heard the word that good seed, her child is the H.G. TH PROMISE CHILD. Thus God will be multiplied in us Sinners,to whom the word came ( that good seed it made them Gods ) One of the facets of his death was Multiplication, when a seed dies it multiplies, smite the shephard and the sheep will be scattered then i will TURN MY HAND TO THE LITTLE ONES HIS OFFSPRING THE CHILDREN OF PROMISE THE H.G. PLURAL AS TH STARS OF HEAVEN GBU.

Where it says, "(we are Christ's lineage, and Jesus came through David's line ( Matthew 1:1-17; Genesis 22:15-18, and

and Genesis 1:1-18,"

I made a mistake, that correct scripture is:

Genesis 22:1-18

Sorry, thanks!

Please pray that the LORD GOD remove all stumblingblocks placed multiple times daily into my path by Satan's children to stop me from doing ANYTHING and EVERYTHING and from erasing and making vain whatsoever they've ALLOWED me to get done. I NEED GOD's Voice, HIS real-time communication with me in my life, as our father, David the king (we are Christ's lineage, and Jesus came through David's line ( Matthew 1:1-17; Genesis 22:15-18, and Genesis 1:1-18 for full context)) had with the ephod ( I Samuel 23:9-12; I Samuel 30:7-8), as our brother, Moses OFT did ( Exodus 33:11-17 and Exodus 33:11-23 for proper context), and as our father, Abraham did ( Genesis 18). These men obeyed God's law, so pray

Why do we have to do the Bible.

Because of Abraham's obedience a Nation was born that wd become as the sands of the seas in multitude which was an allegory that God wd offer up his only son CHRIST JESUS resulting in an Israel of GOD,ITS God himself that wants a posterity, A lil one shall be come a 1000 and a small one a strong nation I the lord will hasten it in its time which is the Israel of GOD THE H.G. PLURAL born in humanity that woman in Rev 12 is humanity ya remember Jesus said the field was the world where that good seed wd be sown impling humanity God so loved the world etc. Jesus said smite the shepherd and the sheep willl be scattered then i will turn my hand to the lil ones impling multiplication, th PROMISE GB

When god made that promise to abraham about multiplication he swore by his very self meaning he was gonna multiply his very self in humanity via the seed of christ which is the living word, thats y jesus is saying to whom the word/seed came it made them gods and that which is born of the spirit is spirit as god is spirit which is the h.g.the promise child ( our new innerman has to be born in us ) which is the h.g. th promise child that good seed is his word his breath thats y jesus refers to the h.g. as the promise he is the multiplcation of god in us sinners th world etc.jesus cd not refer to the h.g. as the promise if he were not the multiplication of god. seeds always results in a birth.

Jerry the trinity is the very kingdom of god as abraham offered up his only son isaac so did god almighty offer up his only son christ jesus thats what abraham means exaulted father thus abraham issac and jacob are a perfect picture of the kingdom of god which is father son and granson that is gona initiate the israel of god a greater israel then abrahams seed a heavenly israel th kingdom of god.

Jewish Society is based upon a Patriarchal Male system. God promised Abraham, because he listened to his Voice, that through his seed all Nations would be Blessed. Genesis 22:18

Well, If it was me and my only child daughter , I would be in Hell now, because I would not do it. Sorry Lord. She would still be alive.

Just as abraham issac and jacob were father son and granson that resulted in the nation of israel the sand by the seas that promise that god made to abraham etc the heavenly kingdom is also father son and granson that will initiate the israel of god which is the h.g. the promise seed that is gona be sown in humanity resulting in a birth of th h.g in us, being bornagain of an incorruptible seed gbu

yes, we definitely have to look on the passage with the character of God in mind to see that Abraham knew God would intervene, somehow?

Natural israel was the result of abrahams seed but the israel of god is the result of christ and his seed the word. i will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven thus the sower and his seed planted in humanity, jesus said the field was the world humanity thats y jeremiah saw the world in travail and birth pains 27 times the prophets saw this world in travail and birth pains i.e the israel of god