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@Grace- You said:

"Musta been, since we 'know' "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living." ( Genesis 3:20"

The big question everyone asks is: who did Cain marry? Many people assume that there were only the 3 of them (Adam, Eve & Cain) on the entire planet.

(This is after Cain killed Abel and God punishes him:)

13And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

14Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

15And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

16And Cain went OUT from the presence of the LORD, and DWELT IN THE LAND OF NOD, on the east of Eden.

17And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

My question is:

".....that every one that findeth me shall slay me." WHO IS EVERY ONE???

".....Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain....." WHO IS WHOSOEVER????

'.....And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived..." Where did he get his wife from, if there were only the 3 of them (Adam, Eve & Cain) on the entire planet?????? Did his mother become his wife??

Cain married one on of the descendants of the 6th-day-created people.

To David and Adam from Dgjot:

I wasn't the one that said "The Bible seems to contradict itself sometimes......"

I was replying to Donna Pittman.

Keep in mind that in the Bible, things aren't always as cut and dried as they seem.

(eg. Jesus talked in parables and then had to explain to his disciples what they meant.)

For over 2000 years, godly men have studied, studied, studied the scriptures. They wrote books & commentaries and explained things we wouldn't have noticed or understood. Right? I'm no Bible scholar but I've read some of those books/commentaries or listened to Bible teachers. In the Bible, things aren't always as cut and dried as they seem.

(Like in Revelation 12:3 where it talks about, "a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads." C'mon man. It's not an actual dragon. It's symbolic of a political system, or something.)

Regarding Eve: Genesis 3:13 "And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."

Beguiled = wholly seduced. There's a good chance Eve was already pregnant with Cain when "Adam knew her".

More than likely, Cain was the offspring of Satan and Eve. By murdering his brother Abel, he did HIS FATHER'S bidding.

Abel was the offspring of Adam and Eve, as was Seth. Abel was murdered and God replaced him with Seth.

Genesis 3:20 "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living."

That doesn't necessarily mean that everyone "living" came strictly from Adam and Eve. Since all the great men of the bible came from Seth's bloodline, including Jesus- "all living" could mean "Spiritually" living. As opposed to the Spiritually dead like Cain.

I know this all sounds insane but there's a chance there might be a grain of truth in it.

dgjot: "The world wasn't populated by just two people. God created all the races on the 6th day...I don't understand why people disregard this and think Adam and Eve were the only two people on the planet."

Musta been, since we 'know' "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living." ( Genesis 3:20) Amen?

Robin reed Robin I apologize in my comment After Ecclesiastes verses should be and in Genesis 3:19 from dust thous art and from dust thou shalt return. Helps to closely proofread. In His Service

IMKane The Gospel or the good news consist of Everything God has done in his word to bring to pass the birth the ministry the sacrifice and resurrection of Jesus christ so that fallen man could be redeemed and God would have the family He always wanted from the Beginning in Genesis. Jesus Christ is the main subject matter from Genesis 3:15 to Revelation 22:21. In His Service

I would suggest that you start in the new testament, starting with the four gospels, as this is the ministry of Jesus, and the salvation of the cross, as Jesus says in Matthew 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil". in other words fulfilling of the old testament and its laws and prophecy, and starting from the book of Acts to up to Revelations is the spreading of his gospel, But wherever you decide to start may God bless you on that journey.

any place is a great place to start reading God's word

Michael may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS truth and His understanding.

Genesis 2:8 ..... the tree of THE KNOWLEDGE of good and evil

The fruit would have to be; knowledge of good and evil.

Genesis 3:21 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man has become like one of us (gods), to know good and evil .....

Since we will eventually be the FULLNESS of Christ (gods) ( Ephesians 4:13), it was necessary that man eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Larry Who or what was the serpent in eden, that is a description of operation of our adversary the devil. Here are some other scripture references, Revelation 12:9 notice called the devil, satan that old serpent also 1 Peter 5: Be sober be vigilant for your adversary the devil as a roaring lion walketh about seeking whom he may devour notice in two verses we have 5 different descriptions devil satan serpent adversary roaring lion, these are different descriptions in Gods Word of His methods of operation and there's more. So your question is not a cut and dry answer.

And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:" Was the serpent crawling on it's belly prior to being cursed? Did God create the serpent? Was the Serpent in a different form? Was the serpent deceived by Satan? Was Cain also deceived or over comed by Satan's power to be also known as the evil seed?

Larry Sin is broken fellowship with God I.E. going against His Word, the word serpent in genesis is figurative language for the slyness by which Eve was deceived, the two who first broke Gods word were Adam and Eve there actions went against the only thing God told them not to do. The consequences of their actions man has paid for ever since but was paid for by Jesus Christ.

Larry Jacobs , hi , sin is disobedience to a command from God , some thing is not a sin until God says : don't do this , and then you do it , that is sin . Where there is law there is disobedience , where there are no laws there aren't any sins . We only know for sure what has been written and preserved for our benefit , other than that we may speculate but that's all .

The bible states that Adam is Cain's father my question was concerning other sins before Cain Slew Abel. Did the serpent have another form before he was cursed? Was the eating the forbidden fruit and Adam being deceitful toward the initial sins or were there other sins' committed by man prior to Cain slaying Abel?

Ted.

Satan is the prince of this world and The world also hate Jesus.

Here's why the world hated Jesus.

This persecution Started in Genesis and on through us today. Genesis 3:15.

John 7:7. The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, BECAUSE I TESTIFY OF IT, THAT THE WORKS THEREOF ARE EVIL

And the world presently hates Jesus disciples as well as any people who has a role in God's redemption program.

The Lord called out Abraham and blessed him and Made an unconditional covenant with him. And he would be the Father of many nations Genesis 17:4-13.

Galatians 4:28. Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

Galatians 3:28-29. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

God is not done with Israel as some think,

And the Church did not replace Israel.

They play a role in the future.

Acts 15:14-16. Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,

( AFTER THIS I WILL RETURN, AND WILL BUILD AGAIN THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID, )

which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

This is a spiritual warfare!!

That's the short of it. Perhaps someone can go into more detail.

God bless.

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I started from Genesis. Take your time. I make annotations and sometimes I have to go back to make sure I understand. I think that will help you understand why other things happened later on the Bible.

Since Jesus is our Savior, it makes sense to read the 4 Gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John.

To learn who Jesus is, and every moment of his life on earth.

You might want to pause and consider Matthew24 and Luke 21, Because these are the passages Jesus speaks of the End Times.

This website has a link: Become a Christian with some reading suggestions on it that you might want to view also.

I want to start reading the holy Bible but idk if I should start to read the new testament or the old.

Larry Jacobs Gen. 3 There are those that believe that Eve had sex with the serpent, that's not possible because of physical law spirit cannot have sex with five senses flesh. That being said cain committed the first murder the shedding of innocent blood, then look at the punishment Gen. 3:11-16 cain became cursed from the earth and when you tillest the ground it will not yield its strength, he became a vagabond or wanderer no place to hide. Just as we are born again of Gods seed holy spirit, cain was the first man spiritually born of seed of the serpent spiritually totally corrupt. In the bible they are known as men of belial, the word belial means worthless reckless lawless wicked men, men of the earth and many other names, In the gospel of John 8:44 Jesus Christ went up against these men verse 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot here my word. Next verse Ye are of your father the devil and the lust of your father ye will do, it is not flesh and blood it is spiritual which is why they will die in there sin it is seed. Remember Ephesians 6:12 this is a spiritual battle not senses. I've met Christians that got born again who were satan worshppers but that doesn't mean they were born of the devil.

Was Cain slaying Abel the second sin of man and for this reason was Cain known as the evil seed.

( Revelation 7:14-15) The first resurrection:

14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

( Revelation 21:3-7) The second resurrection:

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of Godiswith men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them,and betheir God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

"One of Us" comes full circle:

Genesis1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness...

Genesis 3:22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us...

Genesis 3:14 View whole chapter

And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Genesis 3:15

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between (Satan) thy SEED and her seed (Jesus), it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Comment: Jesus crushed Satan's head on the Cross. This prophesy was fulfilled. Jesus took the keys of Death, Hell and the Grave. Jesus destroyed Satan's power and authority over the Children of God. (Us). Jesus gave us authority to use His Name and Authority.

If he's trying to make someone sick unto death, the Christian has the authority of Jesus Name to enforce the devil's lack of authority. He has no authority to take someone's life, who has a believer standing upon the authority of Jesus: to stop that attack.

It's like a situation of a baby's parent standing between their tender innocence and a frothing pit bull type of dog. you're gonna fight back with all your might and shield the innocent, the sick, those weakened with disease.

Spiritual warfare is just as bitter as real warfare.

Being a Christian is NOT PASSIVE. Got your armor on, the Words of Jesus in your mouth___the mongrel loses.

Dear Vera,

It is most certainly God's will that you and all of us work if we are physically and mentally able. He even put Adam to work in the Garden of Eden Genesis 2:15 - "And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it." And when Adam and Eve sinned, God put Adam to work as a farmer as is evident in Genesis 3:17-19 "And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return." And so man began to work, and God has intended all of us to work. 2 Thessalonians 3:10 "For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat."

The point is, in that He wants you to work, he will help you find a job, but you must get out there and hunt for one.

God bless.

Take no thought I apologize to answer you question Genesis 3:3 sorry! Also I don't believe Adam was around when she was tempted, adversary hit the weakest link so to speak.

Consequences of knowing Part 2.

Note: Nakedness in the scripture often implies sin exposed.

I believe the consequences of Adam and Eve eating of the tree of ( knowledge of "Good and Evil") is them "knowing" they were naked which suggest they were naked before they ate of the fruit. " The tree of knowledge of good and evil caused Their eyes to be open and they knew they were Naked/Sin exposed.

Here you have a picture of man attempting to clothe himself. Christ was ordained to come into the world before the foundation of the world to provide a covering with his righteousness.

That's what the skins foreshadow,

Immediately after God pronounce the curse he Made them skins.

Genesis 3:21-22. Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

GOD BLESS.

Take no thought I apologize to answer you question Genesis 3:3 sorry!

Hi Richard.

Part 1.

I personal believe they are, I believe they're saved by the same means as everyone else. Faith in the sacrificial lamb our Lord Jesus Christ. I believe the skins provided by the Lord himself speaks of that. The Lord speaks to us by Allegories, similitudes, ect.. And we know they brought sacrifices to the lord and all these sacrifices pointed to the Lord .

Genesis 4:4. And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: " This was asked of them" As I will attempt to bring forward with more scripture.

Hebrews 11:4. ( BY FAITH ) Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. "We know faith comes by hearing". Romans 10-17. So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Christ was foreordained to come into the world to make remission for sins before the world begun.

And before Adam and Eve sinned.

Ephesians 1:4.

1 Peter 1:20.

Titus 1:1-3.

While we are on this topic conjectural view I have.

Look what happens immediately after they have bitten of the tree of knowledge.

Genesis 3:7. And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

"It seems them knowing they were naked was the main reason to keep them from eating on the tree of knowledge."

The tree of knowledge was the focal point before they ate, Them knowing they were naked is the focal point afterwards.

And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was "naked;" and I hid myself.

And he said, Who told thee that thou wast "naked?" Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

Part 2.

Consequences of knowing.

GOD BLESS.

Genesis

Chapter 3

1 Now the serpent was more subtil (deceitful) than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, HATH GOD SAID, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden???

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, GOD HATH SAID, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: (HE LIED)

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

SATAN WAS AFTER ADAM'S MANDATE. "As First Adam."

Comment: Satan caused pride to raise its head. Eve desired to be like God. Adam loved Eve very much: they were One. He ate too, but not for the same reason.

Adam lost the Mandate. In Genesis 3:15 we see that in the process of many generations, Jesus would be born. The Son of Man. He was 2nd Adam.

On the day Jesus was crucified, HE TOOK BACK THE DEED TO THE EARTH. He Took captivity Captive, and took the keys of death, hell and the grave away from Satan. He completed the first Covenant. He RATIFIED THE 2nd Covenant with HIS OWN SINLESS BLOOD. He made us eligible to be born again. We have to ask for it.

As we see with Adam and Eve: Satan does not have power over us, unless we give it to him. Only the blood of Jesus can give us the power to resist sin. How? By being Born Again. John 3

And John 17.

I hope this helps you. Mishael

THE KINGDOM OF GOD

May CHRIST IS US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Luke 17:21 ....Behold, the kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU.

Matthew 12:28 But if I (Christ) cast out DEVILS by the SPIRIT OF GOD, then the kingdom of God has come unto you.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was CAST OUT ....

Revelation 11:15 ...The kingdoms of this world (Satan in us) are become the kingdoms of God (CHRIST IN US), and his Christ; and he shall reign (IN US) for ever and ever.

Colossians 1:27 ...This mystery...CHRIST IN YOU...

GARDEN OF GOD

Song of Solomon 5:1 I (Christ) am come unto my GARDEN...

Isaiah 58:11 ...and thou shall be like a watered GARDEN....

Isaiah 61:11 ...and as the GARDEN causeth the things that are sown it to spring forth; so the Lord WILL CAUSE righteousness and praise to spring forth before all the nations.

Ezekiel 36:35 And they shall say, This land (kingdom of God) that was DESOLATE is become like the GARDEN OF EDEN ...

Genesis 2:9 ...And the TREE OF LIFE also in the midst of the GARDEN, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Isaiah 51:3 For the Lord shall comfort Zion (His chosen): he will comfort all her waste places: and he WILL MAKE her wilderness like EDEN, and her deserts like the GARDEN OF THE LORD: joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.

Genesis 3:8 ..the Lord God walking in the GARDEN..

Ezekiel 31:8 The cedars in the GARDEN OF GOD could not hide him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chestnut trees were not like his branches: nor any tree in the GARDEN OF GOD were like unto him (Christ) in his beauty.

WE ARE THE GARDEN OF GOD....CHRIST IN US...

Thank you once again for your comments, brother Leon. I generally understand & agree with your comments, but if I could direct you to what you wrote: "Following his fall, the adversary was relegated to the position of tempter. Just as he tempted Christ, he was only allowed in the garden to tempt Eve, who was then used to test Adam's loyalty to God."

I believe we have a problem here: Satan's fall is alluded to in Isaiah 14:12-15 & Ezekiel 28:12-19. And then we have Job 1:6,7. So the questions that arise are: at what point was Satan cast down to the Earth & were there two castings down? One, which caused Genesis 1:2 & another that brought on Genesis 3:1-15? For, if the first beautiful Earth was corrupted by reason of Satan's involvement, then where did he go between the first & second creations of Earth, since he lost his position in Heaven, no doubt?

Does Satan's "walking to & fro in the Earth & walking up & down in it" apply to the second creation of Earth, where we find him all over the Earth, including Eden, & then again some years later during the lifetime of Job? If that's the case, then he being wholly evil, walking all over this globe, causing mankind's fall & causing Job his ultimate test, surely must indicate that such evil must breed evil, not only to those tested but to all of 'groaning' creation so affected?

Therefore, looking at the Scriptures given by the Lord for us to work with, to have a two-Earth belief (once unformed & then reformed), becomes very difficult to acquiesce to, for Satan's position in either world, must mean a corruption of that world; i.e. if Satan was the reason for the first deformation, the reformation of the second must be likewise affected. Or, if God cleaned up the first then why permit Satan to be around to also affect the second? To be around again, just to test mankind's fidelity to Him, seems a weak reason in light of the extent of damage that was in Satan's power. The Lord be with you.

[Adam gave his mandate over to Satan when he and Eve ate of the fruit of the Tree of Life.]

God spoke of the Word to become flesh in the future: Genesis 3:15

"And I will put enmity between thee (Satan), and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it (Jesus Christ) shall bruise thy head (Satans legal power), and thou shalt bruise his heel. (the nail through Jesus's feet)."

When Jesus died for the sins of all mankind on the Cross, he fulfilled the Old Covenant, and ratified the New Covenant, with his blood sacrifice as the Lamb of God. Satan didn't know that, or he would have prevented it.

Jesus was resurrected on the 3rd Day. Satan was stripped of the power he had stolen from First Adam. Second Adam is Jesus. Satan has no authority over Gods born again children. Only what we give him by sinning and not asking to be forgiven. 1 John.

Jesus descended into hell's prisons, took the KEYS of Death, Hell and the Grave; out of Satans hand. Then Jesus emptied the prison.

The Godhead (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) live outside of Time; and they Live inside of Time.

"In Beginning," ( Gen. 1:1) is when God began the ticking of Time.

We might crab at God, "Why did YOU let this disaster happen?! God has a will, He gave free will to mankind to use for good or evil. As a Created being, Satan has an evil will. He does all the things we blame God for. Isaiah 14:12-16

We all need to remember that. Be wary and pray daily to God: Thy Will Be Done.

In Job, we see that Satan attacked Job's family first. He stirred up an F-5 tornado against them. Let's be informed "who" is responsible for what.

God is Love, God is Good. He has made all Provision for us. He even gave His only begotten Son, so that we may live eternally, IF we accept Jesus as Savior and Lord? Take your SELF off the throne of your heart; and ask Jesus to be the Lord of your Life. Be conscious of WHO has your best interests at heart.

Mishael