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"Visiting the Fatherless and the widows". We see these things mostly with the refugee. More than ever are we afflicted with refugees. The world over ,created mostly from sin. How many homes continue to be destroyed, How many widows are born, how many children wander in the desert wilderness? While the politician can only see himself. The politician, looks always to put the blame somewhere else! He even creates his walls for protection, only for himself! And yet, they say the child is not mine, the cry u hear is someone else's child! The city, even is lost, with no borders that hold righteousness. There is no fear of God, all have gone astray! The scripture, written for our learning and instruction in righteousness, are only words? You too faithless one, will soon will find there are no gates to protect you! Judgment has arrived at the house of Israel!

Hello Janoyce,

Just to expand a little more to the truth S Spencer shared with you. As recently someone had a question similar to yours. The Love of God, Jesus Christ, is beyond what we can imagine. What I perceive as more important to ask is "do I love Jesus Christ"?

God is Holy and hates sin. To repent from the sins of this world, giving your life to Him, and live to do His Will is very important. I will just leave a couple Scriptures for you showing how important it is for us to love Him with all our heart, soul, and mind. Our love for Him shall not be forgotten.

Deuteronomy 7:9, Deuteronomy 10:12-13, Psalms 31:23, Psalms 97:10, Psalms 145:20, Proverbs 8:17, John 14:21,

James 1:12, James 2:5,

God Bless.

Hey Adam, I hope everything is well, My words are not as elegant as some on here. First, my meaning, the Law of Moses given by God, no man has ever fulfilled and no one has been sin-free. If Jesus came not being able to sin, and He could not be tempted, He would have not lived under the law because He was above the Law. Jesus did not sin He was perfect. Jesus lived in the flesh under the same conditions as we are in sinful flesh. That does not even hint He died for his own sins. He did not have any sins.

It's like if you and I had to go through an obstacle course and I was able to go to the finish line without going through the course, how could I say I finished perfectly. Satan would be in front of God calling foul it doesn't count.

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

Jesus in the flesh was tempted his entire fleshly life on earth even 40 days and 40 nights from Satan.

I said Jesus willfully died for us, if His body had not died and placed in the tomb and God resurrected Him on the third day we have no hope.

I do not remember saying anything about soul/spirit or an afterlife that was not in this discussion.

God bless you, Ron

Hi Ron, I agree with some of what you said, except for the following assumptions:

"If Jesus did not have the sinful flesh that came from the first Adam and Jesus was incapable of sin what did He fulfill?"

I don't believe the above assumption is true. The Bible clearly says Jesus was without sin (perfect), so why even flirt with the idea that He wasn't? Where does that idea even come from?

Jesus didn't come to die for His own sins, but for yours, for mine, for all human beings past, present and future. Why assume it has anything to do with Jesus' doing something wrong? It wasn't about Him atoning for His sin, but yours! That's what makes it extra special and loving- He loved you that much to give you that gift that frankly He had no business doing.

The other assumptions I noticed was this, which I also don't believe is true:

"God cannot be tempted, Jesus was, God cannot die, Jesus willfully did for us."

First, what do you mean by God cannot be tempted- do you mean God won't give into temptation or is impossible for a tempter like satan to tempt Him? Human beings are tempted by satan as a normal part of being human- so of course Jesus was tempted. It's possible you got this idea from: James 1:13, but it says God cannot be tempted with evil. It doesn't say that if God becomes a man that satan can't attempt to tempt him. This is likely at the core of this misunderstanding. Of course the Bible says clearly that Jesus is God in John 1:1 and many other verses.

Second, you wrote: "God cannot die, Jesus willfully did for us"

I agree with the first part that God can't die. But then you wrote that Jesus died for us. Yes, as a human being, not as God. His spirit didn't die. So, this sounds like it's conflating 2 different things and assuming that Jesus doesn't have a soul or spirit or that there's no afterlife? Since all human beings have a soul/spirit and an afterlife, and since God the Father is a spirit, of course God the Son has this too which didn't die. God bless.

Diannq,

I would like to share with you my understanding of James 1:22. James gives us the explanation in James 1:23 of who a doer is. The person who is a hearer only, hears the law, he has the law convict him and prove to him that he is a sinner, but he goes away and forgets what kind of man he is.

The person who is the doer of the word is the person who continues in the word. That is, the word has shown him his sinfulness, and his need for Christ, and he doesn't forget that. He pursues!

So a doer of the word in my understanding doesn't mean that I take my bible and go out and do it, which is a major teaching in the western world because we are "works" oriented.

But in context, he's talking about the Jewish person who hears the law and says amen, and then he walks out and forgets what kind of person he is.

In principle it would also apply to the Gentiles, to go and hear the word, understand what it says, see my part in it, hear what God has to say to me, and then leave and just forget the whole thing and not continue in it. We are to continue in it, pray about it, and continue to read it over, asking God to work it out!

I have heard James 1:22 often and kept it in my heart. Be he does of the word and not heaters only. We can hear a verse all our lives and never really know the true meaning until one day God gives us a ha ha moment. To think how that happens! I missed the real meaning...Be he doers of the word is the part I wasn't getting. So what is the true meaning of "be he does of the word?" If we just hear and are never afflicted or challenged what is the profit? If we never take some spiritual morsel away what does it profit to just hear? One of my problems growing up is I was taught to be a hearer, to be quiet, to listen but never given direction on doing. I can promise me that I will never just be a hearer but will be a does of the word. Counsel, direction and constant study await those who look for spiritual guidance.

Isaiah 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

Ezekiel 33:31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.

Matthew 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you

James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

( 1 John 3:18-19 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before Him.

Danette, The book of Job brings up hard questions that are difficult to answer. Why did God allow Satan to take and destroy all he had, his wealth all the cattle and animals, and his family, and for God to allow this on a righteous man like Job? Job had the patience to trust God even while going through the suffering he was enduring. We need that kind of faith. Everyone around Job was convinced he had done a great sin even his wife told him, Job 2:9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die.

God may allow trouble and tribulations to come into our lives, but as hard as they may be, we must trust God and remember what our promise is. Our promise is not wealth and prosperity that some cling to, leading many in the way of this world and away from God. Our promise is eternal life by the faith given by the death burial and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, regardless of what we face in the corrupt world. The story of Job is needed in these times more than when it was written.

We have been told we will have tribulations in this world. It's hard for us humans to accept that God will allow bad things to happen to us for his will. But this message needs to be told especially in the days we are living. We must have faith that it is God's will for his purpose. But if we are used for God's purpose we should rejoice.

James 1:2-4 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; 3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. 4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

God bless us, Ron

Isaiah 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

Ezekiel 33:31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.

James 1:21-25 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls.

But be ye doers of the Word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

For if any be a hearer of the Word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:

For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.

But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

1 John 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

As Mishael stated in a comment "faith without works is dead"( James 2:20). Learning about our Lord Jesus Christ and zealously studying/reading the Word is most definitely good fruit unto the Lord. As in many ways we can all produce good fruit of the Spirit unto our Father in Heaven.

God Bless.

Hello Monica,

I just wanted to share with you a list of verses I have about "cursing" or any filthy thing out of our mouths.

Ephesians 4:29

( Ephesians 4:31

( Colossians 3:8

( James 1:26

( James 3:10

( 1 Peter 3:10

Hear are a few: James 1:1-27 and James 4:7-17. Pray, read the Word of God, ask Jesus for strength, and endure! God Bless, and I will remember you in prayer!

Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles by God's choice. The Lord Jesus declared that He had a specific mission for Paul: "This man is my chosen instrument to carry my name before the Gentiles and their kings and before the people of Israel" ( Acts 9:15). Paul had been set apart from birth and called by God's grace so that he might "preach [Christ] among the Gentiles" ( Galatians 1:15-16).

Are you a Gentile? Then you need to go to the Apostle Paul to find out how to be saved, what we cal "born again".

This passage of scripture is 1st Corinthians 15:1-4, but verse three and four, is the Gospel, the good news that Christ took our place so that we might have live everlasting.

Jesus commanded his 12 Disciples NOT to go to the Gentiles, in Matthew 10 1-7, and then about eighteen years later, he sent Paul to the Gentiles, WHY? Because he had a different Gospel for the Gentiles, "But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. John 20:31. That Gospel is for the Jews. And Paul's Gospel is for the Gentiles. 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" You can plainly see they are different. Peter, nor any of the 12 apostles preach that "Jesus died for our sins" as Paul did. Check out these two scriptures John 20:31, and 1st Corinthians 15:3,4.

To believe in him

What your husband is endeavouring to do may show some value, particularly to those who are uninformed about the global political situation, but to devote so much time to information gathering & publishing where attendance at your Fellowship has to be neglected, is not only a misdirected quest but detrimental to his spiritual life, his family & even those he knows at Church. He may not see it now, thinking that he has it all under control & his faith is strong, but one of the many reasons we attend Church is to bring our lives & our thoughts into a correct perspective, by paying special attention to the reading of the Word, singing to the Lord, & to receive both a mental & spiritual challenges from the message by God's servant. Tell him that to give up just a couple of hours on a Sunday to worship as a couple & meet & encourage the others whom you know there, is vital to all & brings glory to God.

Don't discourage him from his 'watchman' pursuit, though I wonder whether all the information he gleans is actually true, verifiable & profitable to others. I think most of us realize that world leaders, even the honest, upright ones, have to stay true to their political affiliation, which often goes against what is right & proper, even against biblical standards & values. So what must be the condition of those who are corrupt, self-seeking & give little value to life. And even if he exposes all this, I wonder whether his purposes would ever be fully realized. In any case, if he sees that you are supportive of him to some extent & interested, he may well consider your appeal to him, favourably.

Indeed, God is still in control even though at times it may not appear to be so. All these griefs we face must come to pass as part of God's Agenda - it may be worthwhile to warn others, but more so to look to our own spiritual health & family needs first. There has to be a balance in whatever we do, & the end of it has to be for God's Glory. 1 Corinthians 10:31: "whatever we do".

I think you are indeed in need ,i cant and wont tell you what to do ,i can only say what i would do in your shoes ,1st i wouldnt get into big discussions that may lead to arguements with your husband ,2nd i would continue to be joyfull and do everything to maintain my conection with my God and my Saviour joyfully ! 3rd i would try very hard not to get too annoyed with him and i would pray for him ,hopefully he will see sense in his own time but meantime i would continue to be me and pray for Gods blessings and mercy to continue on you both ,be as patient as youcan be with Gods help .

My husband is very keen on being "the watchman on the wall" like in ?Ezekiel or is that ?Micah... anyhow he is so keen on preaching what he knows to those around us... especially our grown up children that he doesn't want to go to church anymore and would prefer to 'study" at home... ie... study the right wing websites for what horrible things the world leaders are doing now and then exposing these on his Facebook page for all to look at in horror and wring their hands.... I'm kinda tired of living in a "henny penny, the sky is falling" way. I trust that what is happening is still under God's direction and control despite the badness. How can I help my husband see that all is not lost and that God is supreme? I feel strongly he and his cronies are very puffed up and prideful... my husband has said to me that I am "ignorant". I'm not. I just chose to see the good not the continual bad. (all that is good, perfect and acceptable.... dwell on these things.). I'm in need of spiritual help here!

Rick Renner Ministry have a world wide intercessory prayer ministry. They know what it means to stand in the gap. The enemy blows a hole in the wall of spiritual warfare. Ephesians 6. They stand in the weakened place till it can be repaired.

It's not a prayer like: "Oh Dear God bless me, bless my family, friends....".

It's a prayer of War, as if standing in the cavity of a hole so Satan and his evil beings cannot breach the broken place. If you see a wolf trying to hamstring a baby sheep; you'd shelter it in your arms until the SHEPHERD appears rescue the lost youngling.

You become like a heavenly type of sheepdog. You serve The Master. His pay, is oneness. It requires much observation and waiting patiently for the merest glance from the master; the Chief of the shepherds.

Watch a competition of Irish shepherds and their dogs, on YouTube maybe. Look into that dogs eye! He is intense at waiting for "the look"; command. His whole body quivers for the command to go !

Do we wish to be the Glory? Or to serve the glory? What makes our feet leap out of bed each morning? What does Jesus see in our lives..Every day and on Sunday too?

Don't look and sound like the World. This world is not our forever home. Amen?

Heaven is very practical and less mystical..if you can perceive the sheepdog. Mishael

Angela Ford,

"I want to read a book on healing..."

Because you are here on the KJV site, I'll assume you want to understand the subject from a biblical perspective. In which case there is no one book of the Bible with a focus on that topic, however, you can use the search feature at the top of the page to enter words such as heal, sick, illness, and the like, to find every passage in the Bible to see what is said there. I hope that helps.

I want to read a book on healing.....

First, the verse, you are in question is Mark 12:30 if we think about what Jesus says it is really simple you have to love the Lord with all of yourself. If your mind is not focused on the Lord then the rest of yourself will wander. With all the false preaching and people following these false preachers you have to stay focused on the word and the Lord. The lord already knew what today would be like so he put mind so we would not be lead astray. Stay focused on the Lord study your bible and pray. I hope this helps any more questions please feel free to ask or reach me in my email. Thank you.

Hello Elaine,

( 1 Corinthians 10:13

Then James 1:13-14 just stating that God is not the one tempting.

God Bless you sister.

If someone is torn between two ways of life, then they'll be changing their ways based on how they feel at the moment, so his ways are unstable since they are constantly changing. This person ends up getting the worst of both worlds; the guilt coming from a desire to be righteous, and the pain coming from a life of sin.

Whether it is sin that weights us down in life or other debilitating circumstances we find ourselves in, it is in God's Plan that both His Spirit & His children be ready to assist to save another from being overwhelmed in Satan's grip. When one member of the Body suffers, we all suffer & the only remedy we can give is our support & encouragement.

I was interested to read your comment: "satan does not make me sin ,i am the sinner ,the sin is all mine ,i am responsible 4 my own sin". I think I understand what you're saying, if by that you mean, that the sin in you & which continues to surface, is because it's already there & that Satan remains just a mute spectator. Even though there is merit in that & we all suffer with a fallen sinful nature passed on to us from the beginning, it is Satan himself who is ever present to appeal to that nature causing us to either obey his voice or to withstand him. Our fallen nature is just that: a nature already degenerated so that no good thing can come out of it. Yes, we might do many good things in our lifetime for people & society in general, but the equal propensity to do evil in our nature also exists. How often, we can be told of a man, decent in every way, loving his family, upright in business, but all of a sudden goes into an outrage against someone who has severely offended him & then lets all control & sensibility be lost, by taking another's life. That almost doesn't make sense, but it's reality as sin is ever present that can make us behave in unimaginable ways, not just by bringing disgrace to ourselves but in greatly offending God.

So you may be "the sinner & the sin is all yours", but every time you fall it's not just sin manifesting itself in you of its own accord, but Satan who takes up the fallen nature & your propensity to sin, to cause that root of sin to be revived & expressed. However, if one finds a delight to sin, I then agree that it comes from us - but we would need to question our faith. James 1:14,15.

Hi John Its Rick I've got a few guestions and I don't argue scripture that being said Jesus Christ said I can do nothing without my Father, it says in Gods Word no man has ever seen God , it says in Gods Word God is spirit you can't see taste touch smell or hear spirit when Jesus Christ was on the cross He was talking to Himself? Now i,m not here to argue again but the trinity is not in kjv. and its origin started with the meeting in nicea and it was called the nicene creed before that the belief that God and Jesus Christ and holy spirit being one in entity did not exist, notice I didn't say purpose I said entity also let us not forget that Christ now sits at the right hand of Gods throne. Also in the Gospel of luke !:80 it says that the child grew and waxed strong spiritually I he was God there is no need to get spiritually stronger also in book of James 1:13 it says God can't be tempted neither temp he any man and yet my bible says Our brother was tempted in all ways yet he didn't sin. This in no way take away the reality that Gods only begotten son in the flesh accompllshed the greatest the greatest achievement which was to believe perfectly who he was and deliver us to His father and ours.

This seems to be a chapter describing the 4 cherubim worshiping around the throne of God.

Suzanne, I can see from what you've shared, that you are very sensitive & careful to please the Lord in every area of your life. And yes, we if are honest with ourselves, hardly a day would go by without some sin or some aberrant behaviour we express, that affects us before God & our own consciences. And it would be wrong for anyone to tell you that you are overly introspective & to overlook these things. No sin, however insignificant, can be overlooked & yet, as you state, we are daily cast upon God's mercies & forgiveness because of the shed Blood of His Son, for forgiveness & restoration.

This is the battle we all face in life as Christians & the word to us is always to persevere in our faith & not lose heart. Satan will always be at our door to force us or trap us into some sin - we will be victorious over some - we might fail in others. But I see a couple of key things here for you (& each of us): when our spirits are affected because of some act of sin, we know that it is God's Spirit within us Who is reminding us of our slip up & He is there to help you find forgiveness & restoration: God's Presence. The other thing is that through such failure, we are being taught & strengthened in being more watchful for the next time & in better dealing with it: God's Power. In other words, even though we might not see it, as we gain victories over sin, however small, we are learning to be fully cast upon the Lord & we are becoming more like Him.

If there's a particular area of your life that you know that Satan is attacking you in & causing you to sin, then it is something that needs to be brought before the Lord & your special attention through prayer, reading the Word & using it in those times of temptation. For some, it may be, being given to anger easily, or impatience, or careless thoughts, or many other areas of weakness. All these areas, God is able to help you, strengthen & guide you through, as you look to Him & rest in Him. 1 Corinthians 10:13; James 1:2,3.

do you have a study, uderstanding or belief on ezekiel chap 1 verses 1 to 27.

Hi Anne, give the scripture you are referring to. Thank you

Anne, may the Spirit grace you with his understanding;

Hebrews 11 is a testament about the old testament saints; but pay close attention to verses 39 and 40.

Hebrews 11:39-40 And these all (old testament saints), having obtained a good report through (the work of the Spirit of Christ or the Holy Ghost which is) faith, received not the promise (eternal life, incorruption, immortality):

(vs) 40 God (Spirit) having provided some better thing for us (children of the resurrection), that they (old testament saints) without us (children or the resurrection) should not be made perfect (complete in the Spirit of Christ or the Holy Ghost who only hath immortality 1 timothy 6:16).

John 11:25 ..... I am the resurrection......

Ephesians 2:6 And hath raised us ( old testament saints, children or the resurrection and Christ) up together......

Revelation 20:5 .... this is the first resurrection....

Matthew 27:52-53 And the graves were opened; and many of the bodies of the (old testaments) saints which slept (died waiting for the promise) arose,

(vs) 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city (new Jerusalem)......

Revelation 7:1-4 (vs) 3 ......till we (Spirit) have sealed our servants (old testament) saints in their foreheads (given them the mind of Christ)......

Revelation 14:4 .......these (old testament saints) were redeemed from among men, being the FIRST FRUITS unto God.....

Revelation 1:3 .... for the time is at hand...

May the Spirit grace you with his wisdom.

I think king Saul went to heaven. Did I understand the scripture correctly