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Dear Tim,

2 Corinthians 5:10 seems to say we will be judged for our sins.

And 1 John 1:6-10 says Christians sin, but we need to confess them and if we claim we don't sin then we accuse Jesus of being a liar and the word isn't in us.

So, because of these scriptures I believe we will be judged for our sins. We need to try hard to avoid sin. There's currently some fake news spreading around claiming that it's ok for Christians to sin and be of the world, but that info doesn't come from God. Matthew 10:28, Matthew 5:48, Hebrews 10:26.

God bless...

You have got it, Walter. 1 John 1:9 teaches that if we do something sinful after salvation that as long as it takes for us to kneel and confess; we are in right standing again.

More good news: every day when we wake up, God's Mercies are new and fresh , every morning. Thank you, Lord!!

You need to stay in Luke 15. Backsliding isn't really enjoyable. When all your money is gone, all those good pals move on.

The more you stray, the more you struggle to come back home where you are loved.

The conviction in your heart means the Holy Spirit is still dealing with you.

There's a stronger word written in Deuteronomy 30:14-19

I wish someone had told me that when I was younger. I wasted a lot of years.

When you are Born Again, John 3:3-21, you will receive help from the in dwelling of the Holy Spirit. He will guide you into all Truth.

Confess weakness at 1 John 1:9. Every day if need be. Receive strength. Gods mercies are new EVERY morning. Remember to thank Him for it.

Satan hates to lose one; but you make it clear that he has NO claim on you.

You wrote in. I think you are going to make it. I pray The Lord would reveal His Glory and blessing on you; keep His hand on your Life and strengthen you.

Build a little block of time in your days to spend in the Bible. Read the Gospels how strong and focused Jesus was. How aware of the people around him, he was. He didn't talk over their heads. He spoke plainly and openly.

If Jesus had 99 sheep in the fold and you had wandered a distanceHe would come find you.

If our "conscience" ACCUSES us after we've already repented and asked for forgiveness; then your Accuser is Satan. His mission to steal, kill and destroy. That voice that accuses is, is spiritual warfare. Ephesians 6

You need every piece to protect your self.

Have you read Luke 15, about the Prodigal son (or daughter)? If that describes your experience, then you are forgiven and may now turn and freely embrace Gods Love and forgiveness. He saw you coming back home to Him, way before you did.

You are hidden in His hand and he's not going to let you slip away. The robe the prodigals father put on him, is the robe of righteousness (you have right standing with God again). The adornments are Gods favor which had never left you; no matter what you did.

It's the willful repeated backsliding that burns holes in our conscience. If you stop feeling that conviction, it is Much Harder to return to the Father who loves you perfectly.

That nagging you feel is The Holy Spirit at work in your conscience to help you Will to return to right standing. Cling to Him with all of your strength.

We mess up daily (even me :), which is why we run to 1 John 1:9, to confess those things and be forgiven. A psalm says that the Lords Mercies are new and refreshed towards us every morning! We can start our days thanking and praising Him for that.

Our forever home is in heaven. We're not to love this world system that is going to pass away. We begin living our lives for heaven now. Do the right things. ALL of heaven is on your team cheering you over the finish line!

If you sin you have an Advocate with the Father. Jesus. If satan accuses you in court, God hears the case. Your Advocate (attorney) checks The Lambs Book of Life for YOUR name. It is; and the case is dismissed for lack of evidence; be cause all of your sins are covered by The Blood of Jesus!!

Reverence this knowledge. Keep it close.

Pray & Praise daily, the Lord of Glory.

Praise the Lord,

The five smooth stones are part of a Rock ( 1 Corinthians 10:4) i.e. Jesus Christ . So Jesus Christ is nothing but word of God ( John 1:1 & 14). Matthew 21:44 Its a weapon and Lord has given us spiritual weapon to fight against all demonic powers against us. They are 1. Faith : Hebrew 11:1,6 Hebrews 12:2, Galatians 5:22(F.O.S), 1 Corinthians 12:9(G.O.S) Ephesians 6:16(A.O.G), Matthew 17:20 2.Word of God: John 1:1, Psalms 107:20, Isaiah 55:11, Hebrews 4:12 3. Prayer : Jeremiah 33:3, Matthew 17:21 4. Anointing : Isaiah 10:27, 5. Obedience : 1 Samuel 15:22. If we have this five spiritual smooth stones which formed from Jesus , we can overcome this world. ( 1 John 5:4). David had faith in the Lord and put it into action, also had the special horn anointing to break all the yolks by obeying to the voice of the God. David was a man of prayer. Big things comes in small packages. Victory is ours.

Praise the Lord,

The five smooth stones are part of a Rock ( 1 Corinthians 10:4) i.e. Jesus Christ . So Jesus Christ is nothing but word of God ( John 1:1 & 14). Matthew 21:44 Its a weapon and Lord has given us spiritual weapon to fight against all demonic powers against us. They are 1. Faith : Hebrew 11:1,6 Hebrews 12:2, Galatians 5:22(F.O.S), 1 Corinthians 12:9(G.O.S) Ephesians 6:16(A.O.G), Matthew 17:20 2.Word of God: John 1:1, Psalms 107:20, Isaiah 55:11, Hebrews 4:12 3. Prayer : Jeremiah 33:3, Matthew 17:21 4. Anointing : Isaiah 10:27, 5. Obedience : 1 Samuel 15:22. If we have this five spiritual smooth stones which formed from Jesus , we can overcome this world. ( 1 John 5:4). David had faith in the Lord and put it into action, also had the special horn anointing to break all the yolks by obeying to the voice of the God. David was a man of prayer. Big things comes in small packages. Victory is ours. Let God's name alone glorified,

Amen.

Matthew 19:21, 3 John 1:2, Malachi 3:10-12

Isaiah 54:13, Isaiah 49:25, 3 John 1:2

John 1:12. But as many as received him to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe in his name.

Comments about John 1 v 12 KJV . This v 12 is trying to tell us something in the spirit."Even them that believe on his Name " like in Namesake a grandson ( Gods GRANSONS which are spirits )Who is he speaking of not BORN of BLOOD, nor of the will of MAN , nor of the will of FLESH ( CARNALLALITY SATANS SEAT ) He is not speaking of US, this is about the Namesake the H.G. THAT HAS TO BE BORN in us SINNERS, Its the H.G that comes in his NAME,Jesus said the Father wd send the H.G in MY NAME via his seed the WORD. Several times Jesus said blessed is he that comes in the NAME of the LORD THATS THE H.G. that comes in his Name. Its the H.G. that is not born of flesh nor blood , nor of the will of man. he is not a flesh and blood being but a spritual being that has to be born in US. Its the H.G. that can only be born by the will of God,not by the WILL OF ANY MAN BUT ONLY BY THE WILL OF GOD. As Jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirit thats the H.G. The only way we can become the Sons of God is by the BIRTH OF CHRIST IN US SINNERS WHICH IS THE BIRTH OF THE H.G. THAT WHICH IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT IS SPIRIT. When John mentions NAME that rings a bell .Jesus said the FATHER ( the one who sows that good seed jesus ) will send the H.G IN MY NAME.Even in the natural we all know that whosoever sows the seed is the father of the child his Name (sake) the H.G. Thats y he came, to make mankind righteous via a good seed the word the contents of the new covenant, That Book . I will know them ALL from the least to the greatest and i will put my WORDS IN THE HEARTS AND MINDS ETC.Being bornagain of an incorruptible seed etc even by the Words of God.The blood is also the Word as Jesus was the WORD MADE FLESH AND BLOOD,Thats y he says you are made clean by the Word i have spoken unto you.When he said Blessed are them that come in the name of the lord thats them that have the H.G. his name sake the gransons,the children of Promise.Whosever receives one such Child in my NAME receives Me

Jim,

Yes, Jesus is deserving of praise. You do well to praise Him and realize that He is all you need. I agree that He died for all. There are many places in scripture that show that Christ shed His blood for all and that salvation is offered to all who will receive Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. You quoted Part of John 3:16, but here are a few other verses that agree with what you are saying: 1 Timothy 4:10, 1 John 4:14, 1 John 2:2, John 1:29, John 4:42, Hebrews 10:10, Romans 6:10, Hebrews 9:26, Hebrews 9:12.

So you are correct in saying that Jesus suffered and died for all, but unfortunately not all will receive Him. From what you are saying, I can assume that you've received Christ. Continue to praise Him and always keep Him first in your heart and life. God bless!

1 John 1: 8-10

It's not a narrative, but literally what the Bible says is what most Christians believe. Romans 5:12, 1 John 1:8-10, Romans 3:23, Romans 7:18.

Why do you assume Christians have a narrative? Do you believe the Bible?

To shake off- so that something adhering shall fall: this is symbolic act a person expresses extreme contempt for another and refuses to have any further contact with him.

This is what happens when someone refuses the word of God. When a person refuses the word of God they are refusing God. (See John 1:1) If any man denies the Lord, he shall be denied. (see 2 Tim. 2:12)

Genesis 1:3 KJV

(3) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

What God is really saying in Genesis 1:3 that He IS (Hebrew: hayah) Light instead of "let there be light". The "I AM" is light "I AM" light.

This is the first message to the earth that had become without form (with the form of His righteousness) and void of the knowledge of God and the heart of mankind became darkened. Mankind needs to have the knowledge of God declared unto him.

This is the message which we have heard of Him and is declared unto us: that God is lightand this message is found from the beginning in Genesis 1:3.

1 John 1:5 KJV

(5) This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

The message was from the beginning in Genesis 1:3 that was heard..the Word of life. This Word or Saying of life is that "God is light" and in Him is no darkness at all.

1 John 1:1 KJV

(1) That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

This light shines within our very own hearts when we hear the voice of Jesus who comes to open up the Scriptures to our ears. It is the witness of God within us about His Son whose voice we are to hear. It shines in a dark place (the heart). The bright and morning star arises within our hearts when we hear the voice of the Son interpreting the Scriptures.

2 Peter 1:19-20 KJV

(19) We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: (20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

"And there was light"as we are to become children of light when we have that light within us. While we have the light, we are to believe in the light so that we may be children of light.

Comments on John 1. His life was the LIGHT OF MEN ,but here are 2 lights the lesser light and the greater light. The bible is the lesser light THE WRITTEN WORD but the greater light is the H.G. THE LIVING WORD . One is a night light and 1 is a day light, Jesus said are there not 12 hours in a day and 12 hours in a night, If a man walk in the night he will stumble. David said thy word is a light unto my path, and a lamp unto my feet. describing a night light but David stumbled, ( Bathesheba ) .But he was forgiven . But my point is the written word answers to the lesser light but the living word which is the H.G. ANSWERS TO THE LIVING WORD, my words are spirit and life which is the H.G. tHE GREATER LIGHT. Search the scriptures in them you think you have eternal life but it is them that testify of ME, No eternal life in the written words the scriptures th bible etc,If eternal life were in the written words the Scriptures, jesus shed his blood in vain and the cross was just foolishness. thats the point i am trying to make, that you see the 2 lights the 2 words one is spirit and 1 is paper and ink. Mary was not impregnated by the written word but by the living Word, as Jesus is the living word made flesh and blood the Greater Light. the lesser light is like the moon, it has no light of its own the only light it has is what is reflected from the son/sun. Thus if the H.G the greater light does not revel it unto you there is no spritual light in it as satan can be an angel of light ' but thats a false light ( written words ) without the spirit of Christ as he said my WORDS ARE SPIRIT AND LIFE THE LIGHT OF MEN ( THAT GREATER LIGHT ) THE SON/SUN. REMEMBER JESUS SAID THE NIGHT COMES WHEN NO MAN CAN WORK. Jesus also said The days will come when you will desire to see 1 of the days of the son of man the greater light but you will not see them impling a time of darkness spritually, Isaiah said that darkness will cover the earth and gross darkness th people. The present time gb

Spending time in the Word of God is spending time with Christ. He is the Word (see John 1:1). For me, I experience his presence which leads to prayer. I gather scriptures that I desire to pray to him about because I know he honors his Word and I know that I'm praying his will. I recommend reading the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Afterwards Read Acts chapter 1 and 2. Do this every day, devote quite time with him, listen for him. In this reading you will come to know about Jesus Christ, his passion, his heart, and feel his love. Get ready to enjoy reading the Word of God, enjoying his presence and experiencing intimacy with him. You're on the right path of desiring an intense relationship with him for the Word promises if you seek him, you will find him! God bless you and I'm so happy for you. His Love is wonderful, Christ is wonderful and his presence and spirit is amazing! He is the best thing that has ever happened to me. He gives me confidence, love, peace, strength, joy, comfort, hope and security. He has changed my life and has changed me. I will never be the same and don't want to be. If I can share a song with you it would be this: He's sweet I know, oh He's sweet I know. Storm clouds may rise, strong winds may blow. I'll tell the world, wherever I go. That I've found a savior and he's sweet I know.

I am not sure of the one you said who claimed to be a prophet is indeed a prophet, that I don't know nor do I dare to say anything on what I don't know for you should not go against the Lord's anointed and nor should we speak any idle words, for that is what God is going to judge of for according to Matthew 12:36.

HOWEVER, that being said, the person is not wrong at all as one can lose their salvation. I am sorry for those who have lied to you saying otherwise by picking and choosing (usually from brother Paul-it's as if they follow him rather than Jesus), but in taking in what Jesus says and the Bible as a whole, you certainly can. I would recommend in reading all of (1-3) John ( 1 John 3:8-9, 1 John 1:6, ! John 3:6 specifically), Hebrews (Hebrew 10:26 specifically), and the Book of James regarding the point, but we can look at one simple parable from Jesus at the end of Matthew 18 ( Matthew 18:23-35 specifically) completely dismantling the false and utter lie from the devil OSAS doctrine. For we see a man who have sinned, was cleansed, forgiven, and saved and, then after this he sins again and is taken by the tormentors (hell). We also got Romans 11:22 (The same Paul these Calvinistic OSAS guys like to quote from), "Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be [cut off.]" Couldn't be clearer.

These people, are liars from the flesh, not getting their the truth from the Bible or the Holy Spirit but from either their flesh or men of the flesh learning from other men of the flesh. God Bless you, brother. Ask the Holy Spirit to lead and Guide you, there are liars in many places, including here as you can see above (excluding Mishael). Blessings! ;)

Hey Chris,

We have examined the Scriptures and come to different conclusions. This is the beauty of the Word of God. Let us all keep learning and growing in His word.

I will leave you with some final thoughts and questions concerning these particular topics.

The information concerning the two separate and distinct accounts of the creation of man and the separate instructions given in Genesis 1:26-29 from that given in Genesis 2:4-7 can clearly account for the creation of mankind in general and the creation of Adam in particular.

If we are all ancestors of the singular man Adam you say accounts for Genesis 1:26-29 AND Genesis 2:4-7, how have we such distinct and separate races upon the earth after 6000 years of interbreeding?

One race mating with the same race does not produce another race or all the races; neither does migration.

If we are all derived from one man, than we would only have one nation to speak of because we would all be of the same lineage! How then do we in the third dispensation of time (when we are all with God again) still find a distinction between the house of Israel and the other nations? In Revelations 21:24, we find the different Kings of the nations bringing their glory and honour inside the gates? (i.e. they live outside the gates; and we are all with God at this point in time.

We are ALL of the family of God, i.e. of one blood ( Acts 17:26, 1John 1:7); but all are NOT of the same lineage.

If God makes a distinction between the lineage of Adam and the nation of Israel from every other NATION upon the earth, shouldn't we!

God is great

Thank you God for knowing exactly what we need, in life to get to heaven.you gave us your very best, our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. And thank you father for allowing your only begotten son to suffer and die for a wicked fool like me. Thank you lord for another day that the Lord has made let us rejoice and be glad in it. Halleujah glory to god.in reference to John chapter 1.

2. The words 'Eternity', and 'forever' is a mistranslation that comes from the word 'aion' which means Age, or age abiding, age lasting, or into the ages, not eternity.

If the word aion was translated to eternity every time its used in scripture, it might sound like it works for some verses, but if you consistantly translate it eternity there are many verses that would make no sense.

Matthew 25:46

And these will go away to eternal (age lasting) punishment, but the righteous to eternal (age lasting) life

1 Corinthians 3:18

If anyone thinks he is wise in this eternity (age), let him become a fool so that he may become wise.

3. We don't have true 'Free will' to choose God

There is the will of the flesh, and the will of Christ

You either walk by the spirit, or you walk by the flesh.

Ephesians 2:8-9

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

John 1:12-13

But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

So God is the one that allows us to believe in him, we get no credit. We cannot boast that we chose God because we didn't, he chose us. That verse plainly states that.

So how can we say men will be subject to eternal damnation when God didn't allow them to believe in him? God is all loving right? And all powerful, so he has a system in place in which he will purify all men through fire, all will be saved.

God Also hardened Pharaohs heart, which left Pharaoh with no free choice to let the people go. If man had free will; God could not override their will, but he does.

Exodus 4:21

And the Lord said to Moses, "When you go back to Egypt, see that you do before Pharaoh all the miracles that I have put in your power. But I will harden his heart, so that he will not let the people go.

I don't think anyone would argue that the God of the Bible, Jehovah, is a God of Order and Purpose, Ephesians 3:11. We see how when He created the Universe, He organized it and set everything in motion, by carefully coordinating the composition and orbits of Galaxies, Stars, and Planets, Isaiah 60:20-22. He also established Physical Laws to regulate the interaction of all matter. Even the smallest Atoms are regulated. Everything adheres to His Principles for order, Psalm 8:3. That is also true of Humanity and Social interaction, John 1:17. There are set rules and standards everything must meet to function. There is even a cycle in the Earth that allows things to decompose and regenerate. Leaves fall in the forest. They decompose. Then they act as nutrients for the soil. Those nutrients feed the seeds that grow into more trees.

The Bible tells us that in the Beginning of Time, God created the Heavens and the Earth. He also created vegetation, animals and mankind. The Bible also tells us the name of the Creator is Jehovah. In the New Testament we find Christ with God at the beginning. And Christ created all things. So we find that:

1. God is a God of Order

2. He created all things that exist, visible and invisible

3. God created with a Plan and Purpose

4. That Purpose is found in Christ

5. Without Christ, nothing was made that was made

6. All things were created For Christ

7. Before Adam and Eve were created, God had a Plan

8. That Plan is called His Eternal Plan of Creation

9. It is also called His Plan of Redemption or Salvation

10. Christ, as the Sacrificial Lamb, existed before Abraham

11. Christ as the Sacrificial Lamb existed before Adam and Eve Sinned

12. Our Salvation through Christ was decided before The Fall

13. When Adam and Eve fell, God's Plan for Creation was already working

14. We are part of God's Plan of Creation as the Redeemed by His Love and Grace

15. We can love God, because He first loved us

This is Truth and spiritual light.

Jesus Christ is the only living sacrifice acceptable to God The Father, to save mankind from their sins. God

The all male Trinity is a lie. It is a "false truth", and a doctrine of Satan that have been taught in churches for thousands of years as truth.

Howerer, All males cannot produce children, spiritually ir physically. If the world is to look up to God in heaven to see the perfect order of a family, and they are lied to that God is just The Father with a male Son, and a male Holy Spirit, and the all male union produces children, with no Mother anywhere to be found, then that's a major reason why woman have been treated like dirt in some countries, and there is so much disorder in the world today.

Jesus Christ is the son of God The Father, and if Jesus is also our everlasting Father, as the lying scribes say; that means that you and me, The True children of God have the same Father, and that makes Jesus my brother.

My brother can never be my father.

This is truth, not heresy!

The lying pen of the scribes changed some of the scriptures into lies?

"How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made He it, the lying pen of the scribes is in vain." Jeremiah 8:8

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Genesis 1:1

"In the beginning was The Word{Jesus Christ}, and The Word{Jesus Christ} was with God The Father, and The Word was God." John 1:1

"26 And God{God The Father and The Word,Jesus Christ, God The Wife, God The Mother} said, now, WE make man in our image, after our likeness, and WE give them dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

27 "So God created man in Their own image, in the image of God, they created man, male and female God created them." Genesis 1:26,27

Rich, here is a verse for you: 1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

Praise God for His forgiveness!

Bless the Holy Spirit! He's been reading your comments.

As soon as I came in, I saw all the comments. The Holy Spirit said one word:

FELLOWSHIP.

That's what we do here, mostly lol. I was reminded of a couple of things: Genesis 2:19, God brought the animals etc to see (with pleasure) what Adam would name them. That's a lot of critters so I'm thinking it was a daily time together.

Genesis 3:8, and they heard the voice of God !!! Walking in the garden in the cool of the day. I know I like walking, early evening. Forget the sin and stuff... God likes to walk with us. It could happen if we were ever in tune with Him.

Watching in the night before Him. Listening. Talking to Him like he was in the room too?

Fellowship. We were made for all kinds of fellowship, but primarily with God, through the Holy Spirit. He's NOT a floating ghostly vision: He is a Person. He would comfort us if we would let Him!

Watchman, Watchman, what do you see ?

Since you are all excellent searchers of the Word; here are some places of scriptures concerning 'fellowship' between us and God, by the power of the Holy Spirit, through the intercession of Jesus for his saints.

Psalm 130:6, Psalm 19:2, 1 Corinthians 1:9

Ephesians 3:9, books of John 15, 17

Philippians 2:1-2, 3:10

1 John 1:3, 6, 7. And more to discover...

One time I was reading Ezekiel and got to the Valley of dry bones. When God said for him to prophesy! Every hair on my body stood up and when he said THUS SAITH THE LORD...my knees gave way.

He is so majestically Powerful, it takes your breath away.

You can have a relationship /fellowship with the Godhead!

Those scriptures will change from words on a page, to the living Word Of God! Alive, living in your heart, your mind, the text you write.

You all need to ask the Holy Spirit for the Gift, of discerning of spirits. Covet the best gift: word of wisdom. Receive it. Gifts and callings are irrevocable.

What immediately came to my mind is

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive our sins and cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness. (Also continue on thru 2:2) The fear you feel is NOT from God, for God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and love and a sound mind. 11 Timothy 1:7 But satan, the liar who comes to kill, steal & destroy has gripped you. Cast off his lies IN JESUS NAME!!!!! I pray this helps to bring His peace into your soul. Get into the Word & see what God says, then you'll know the truth, & satan's lies will be more obvious to you.

Stay a while in 1 John and his other books.

In 1 John 2:1 it says that if you sin and Satan drags you up before the Throne of God, you have an ADVOCATE (sitting at Gods right arm). Jesus, your Advocate and attorney. He checks the Lambs Book of Life, sees your name written in it, and your case is dismissed for lack of evidence. Your sins have been blotted out with His blood.

It doesn't mean we can run amok and sin all over the place. We are to put ourselves in the Holy Spirits leadership, teaching; conviction when we do sin.

Fear hath torments. That's a demon with many little demons. It's their job to shake your faith in Jesus. The spirit of death causes some people to take their lives. They know they have no rights to do any of that to a Jesus trusting Christian.

In 1 John 1:9 you will learn to run to the Cross if you do sin and confess; be forgiven; renewed. I go there a lot.

We are washed clean by constantly renewing our minds with the Word of God. Your Bible. If we don't furnish our "homes" with Bible teaching; prayer: demons come back around to see if you have an opening for them. You can make them leave!

Say what you've learned: IT IS WRITTEN... and speak your scripture that you've planted in your heart.

You'll get so strong that you'll be able to help other people get freed as well.

Now go read Romans 8:1-2. Read all of Rom. 8. Read Book of John 8:32

You did good coming here :)

Jesse, excuse the intrusion as I don't want to join/add to the thread, but just wanted to comment on that excellent piece you've shared (over two pages). That was to the point & inspiring - thank you. I was particularly interested to learn of your 'proficiency' in Greek, which undoubtedly is standing you in good stead. And if your great ability in English is clearly seen, then we can take confidence in your reading & understanding of Greek.

As well, apart from our divergent views on, say, the Rapture, then we also have to add the type of manuscript being referred to & to non-Greek readers, which Lexicon is being used. I think of JWs & their understanding of John 1:1: we understand, from Textus Receptus as "..and the Word was God". JWs read in their New World Translation: "..and the Word was a god"; thereby removing the Deity of Christ. What an incorrect use of an article can do!! Blessings as you feed on the Word.

I think what you need to do Bob is prove to everyone that repent means to turn from sin because it doesn't it means to change your mind God changed his mind many times and in order for anyone to be saved they have to change their minds and if you had to turn from sin to be saved you become the savior and therefore you're not going to be saved Romans 11:6 and if by Grace then it is no more of Works otherwise Grace is no more Grace but if it be of works and it is no more grace otherwise work is no more work Ephesians 2:8 and 9 for by grace are you saved through faith it is not of yourselves as gift of God not of Works lest any man should boast 1st John 1:8 if we claim to be without sin we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in US