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Being born again is the key issue here.

Jesus did not call us to perform religious ceremonies. He said My yoke is easy and my burden is light.

Baptist church life is more than sitting in a pew. I grew up southern Baptist and knew nothing about the Godhead: Father, Son, Holy Spirit. They preached hell and that I had to be Baptised. Which I did, and 5 yrs

later I was serving the devil.

Find one that teaches THE BIBLE. You can research online what each church's Tenets of Faith are. Google that if you don't know what that is. If you do not read your Bible every day you will NEVER know if you are being taught the truth at Church!

Seek TRUTH. Jesus says: I AM the WAY, the TRUTH, and THE LIFE. No one comes to the Father, except BY ME.

The Father is Spirit! He is not fleshly; human. Find in the King James Bible where God is a human man.

I was raised Baptist but have been going to the Catholic Church but am switching back to Baptist because in attending probation for Legion of Mary I see that I can not pray to Mary. One of the stands that my Catholic friends make is that THEY HAVE THE EUCHARIST. How can I defend myself with the bible against that claim?

James 2 v 19

Jim,

Yes, Jesus is deserving of praise. You do well to praise Him and realize that He is all you need. I agree that He died for all. There are many places in scripture that show that Christ shed His blood for all and that salvation is offered to all who will receive Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. You quoted Part of John 3:16, but here are a few other verses that agree with what you are saying: 1 Timothy 4:10, 1 John 4:14, 1 John 2:2, John 1:29, John 4:42, Hebrews 10:10, Romans 6:10, Hebrews 9:26, Hebrews 9:12.

So you are correct in saying that Jesus suffered and died for all, but unfortunately not all will receive Him. From what you are saying, I can assume that you've received Christ. Continue to praise Him and always keep Him first in your heart and life. God bless!

When Jesus began his Ministry he called himself, THE SON OF MAN.

His blood HAD to be pure from all sin. Mary was overshadowed by the Holy Spirit (who is Spirit and invisible).

Jesus's blood was NOT connected to Mary's blood supply. The spark of life began to grow, by the power of God.

Even tho Mary was married to Joseph, they did not have marital relations till after Jesus's birth. That's scripture.

You can Google ancestry charts on Mary and Joseph; which is very interesting! Both were descended from King David. Jesus had "half" brothers and sisters. No connection by blood or "DNA".

In order to be The Lamb of God, he had to be pure from sin running through bloodlines; he had to live daily without committing any sin, for 33 years.

The Son of Man hung on the Cross as the perfect, sinless; without spot or wrinkle; Lamb of God. After he died, the HUGE Room-sized veil in the Temple was torn from top to bottom. Not bottom to top.

That was Him saying the Old Covenant was replaced by the New Covenant.

Who is this Son of Man who gave himself fully for mankind? He never sinned.

We can trust Him with our souls. He wants to be our Lord. Through Him, anybody can be saved; born again. John chapter 3.

Jim, if Jesus died for ALL then why did he speak in parables to hide the gospel from some?

Matthew Chapter 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is NOT GIVEN not given.

12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

Malachi 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

God hated Esau (Yes I know they want to CONvince us this means love less)

Obadiah 1:18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it.

Malachi 1:4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever. indignation is extreme hatred.

...The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.... how long is for ever?

The Lord does not love Esau / Edom and King Herod was of this lineage per Jewish historian Josephus.

If you do not know the sin of Esau I suggest you look into his marriage into the Hittite canaanite lineage.

Jesus froght suffer and die, for all humanity. Not for some , but for everyone. That mean God love us so much , that he gave his only begotten son for us. The first Adam wasn't strong enough , spiritually , Jesus is all we need, than, now and forever. Make sure you praise and glorify him. He's worthy to be praise.

Why do the Catholics say that Mary is without sin? Why do they use her as an intercessor to Christ? It does not tell us to do that in the Bible anywhere!

Her genealogy was chosen for Jesus to come into the earth. She was a Virgin.

Read all the Gospels; particularly the Book of Luke, about Mary's participation. She was a chosen vessel.

Everybody on earth is born into sin. That is why we need a Savior who can wipe that sin as far as the East is from the west. God is Holy and cannot look on sin! That's why the Savior was born.

Greetings Ruth, The Bible does not mention Mary was without sin. I believe this is exactly why the virgin birth was so important.

I believe Jesus had the same mother and Father as the first Adam.

1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Jesus is called the last Adam.

Christ is likened to the folowing

Hebrews Chapter 7

1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;

2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

no earthly mother or Father

The Bible says the opposite. All have sinned, except Jesus. Romans 3:23.

Does it and if so where in the bible does it say that Mary (Jesus' human mother) without sin?

Ken well said. I might add the Pharisee Jews also were condemned of Jesus for their hypocrisy.

Luke 12:1 In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

Matthew Chapter 16:11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake [it] not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?

12 Then understood they how that he bade [them] not beware of the LEAVEN leaven of bread, but of the DOCTRINE doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Matthew 6:2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the HYPOCRITES hypocrites do in the SYNAGOGUES synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

Matthew 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. ...ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

The Pharisee Jews would talk the talk and not walk the walk.

Matthew 23:4 For they (Pharisees) bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

The righteousness of the Scribes and Pharisees was the self perceived belief that they were obtaining right to Salvation based on conformance to Law and by merit of their Abraham ancestry.

We know this side of the Cross that this is impossible for man, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

We, in Christ have His impuded (credited) Righteousness as a Gift of His Grace.

Have you accepted His Gift?

Blessings and Happy Father's Day all,

Ken

Edna, Matthew 5:20 speaks of this. The Scribes & Pharisees mentioned here were a part of the Jewish leadership who were well studied in the Law & the Prophets & generally laid down the law for the people & enforced them. The Pharisees in particular, were so meticulous in their knowledge (i.e. 'crossing every T & dotting every I'), that they also imposed their own set of rules upon the people & made the law more burdensome to them. Jesus implied this when He said: "Take MY yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For MY yoke is easy, and MY burden is light." ( Mt 11:29,30); meaning, that Jesus' commandments (from God) were not like the heavy burden & yoke imposed by the Pharisees, to which the people found unbearable.

So, these religious leaders prided themselves in their knowledge of the Law & their authority to impose it, as well as their extra laws upon the people. They also loved to be seen by others & receive the praises of the people, etc. (you can read all about it in Mt 23). Jesus, in Mt 5:20, references these ungodly traits & acts by these leaders by telling his disciples, 'don't behave like those Jewish leaders who think themselves as the epitomy of righteousness, but rather you must behave in the manner prescribed by God'.

The apostle Paul also speaks of this in Rom 10:1-5, saying that Israel (because of these leaders) 'have a zeal of God but not according to knowledge; being ignorant of God's righteousness & going about to establish their own righteousness'. And what was the difference between them? They were sticklers for the law & added their own laws as well. God's righteousness is based purely on Faith & that through Jesus Christ, whom the leaders rejected ( Rom 10:8-12). No one coming in the strength of the Law can be saved: only those coming in faith. See Heb 11 for a great list of Faith Heroes, who were commended for their faith in action (righteousness) that went far beyond the Law.

Yes what is the righteousness of the Scribes and the Pharisees? Please explain. Thank you,. Edna L'herault

The "dry" land is the meek heart dried up the waters of evil speaking. Happy are the "poor in spirit"that is, poor in breath as they will be swift to hear His opened mouth teaching and slow to speak.poor in words.

Matthew 5:2-3 KJV

(2) And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,

(3) Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

The good ground.the honest and good heartshall hear the Word and keep it and bring forth the fruit of righteousness towards His teaching of the Word of God.



Luke 8:15-16 KJV

(15) But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.

The earth shall bring forth "grass"that is, peace within the heart. The fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace. They will act in the wisdom that descends from above and not in that earthly, devilish wisdom that is from below the Heaven.



James 3:18 KJV

(18) And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

The herb yielding seed after his kind is faith in what they hear Him saying. There are different degrees of faith. The fruit tree yielding fruit whose seed is in itself is the kingdom of God within us that can grow into a great tree. We are to be His planting of the trees of His righteousness.



Luke 13:18-19 KJV

(18) Then said he, Unto what is the kingdom of God like? and whereunto shall I resemble it?

(19) It is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and cast into his garden; and it grew, and waxed a great tree; and the fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it.

The seed within us is able to save our souls but we must be "dry" within the heart of all superfluity of naughtiness that overflows the heart in words. We must be doers of His Word.

James 1:21 KJV

(21) Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

Genesis 1:10 KJV(10) And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

God called the "dry" land Earth as the meek shall inherit the earth. The dry, meek heart shall be dried of the waters of strife as they will humbly hear the opening up of His mouth that will teach us. He will open up the Scriptures to our hearing ears and we are to take heed on how we hear for we shall be given more.

Matthew 5:2 KJV

(2) And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,

Happy are the meek for they shall inherit the Earth as they shall hear HIs teaching humbly. The "dry" heart shall be dried of all evil and evil speaking....the waters of strife. God called the dry land "Earth" for the meek shall inherit the earth.

Matthew 5:5 KJV

(5) Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

But the gathering of the waters are people who will resist what they hear and don't understand as the "raging waves of the sea" foaming out their own shame as they speak a multiple amount/superfluity of evil words in their envy and strife. The wicked shall not understand Him as the "blackness of darkness" is reserved for them.

Jude 1:13 KJV

(13) Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

The wicked are like the troubled sea when it cannot rest whose waters cast up mire and dirt (as they will speak multiple evil words in their contention of His teaching). There is no peace to the wicked.

Isaiah 57:18-21 KJV

(18) I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also, and restore comforts unto him and to his mourners.

(19) I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith the LORD; and I will heal him.

(20) But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.

(21) There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

Your point is well taken. I embrace both the old and new testament just as Jesus did and said in: Matthew 5:17

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

It's the way a person lives that will prepare him to be a much more active and authoritative peacemaker in the World Tomorrow when Christ returns. Peacemaking is indeed a high standard and a worthy vocation, yielding a wonderful reward that is worth bending our every effort to submit to God and seek His Glorification.

We Christian, hear lots of false information that may or may not seem pleasing to our on appetite. That does not mean we are to forsake the word of god. What keep me sane is knowing that if I mess up, it could be my last time, to repent ,pray and turn from my wicked ways.

>"So it was not sin as long as they got married at some future point afterwards"

Hello, I'm not sure who told you that, but that doesn't come from God and isn't Biblical or true. The father of lies (satan) loves distorting the minds of Christians and encouraging them to spread falsehoods to others. Even though Christians are saved by grace sin is a big deal and should be avoided at nearly all costs. John 14:15, Matthew 5:29-30. Matthew 7:16-27, Matthew 7:26-27, Galatians 5:17, Hebrews 10:26.

Praise God, in acts 10:11 peter said unto Cornelius and his men that God is a respector of no man but if he fear him and worketh righteousness God will accept him. No one is entitled to anything from God but because he's faithful, because he's just, because he's a merciful a gracious father he gives favour unto those who honour him. He's the God of all gods, the beginning and the ending, the great I Am that I am. He holds all in his hands he's in control, when he opens a door for they who fear him and honour him nothing can close that door. We who are so weak, clothed in garment of flesh the Lord find favours in because we honor him. Praise God, all things are for the glory of him, all we do and all we say should be unto him, with that open door whilst its unto us as a gift for our loyalty it's also for his glory so we as his children should bring glory unto his name always. Matthew 5:11-14 we are the salt of the earth and if salt loses its flavour it's tossed out and trampled, it's good for nothing, we are the Light of the earth, a city on a hill cannot be hid. As the salt of the earth and the Light of the world where ever our heavenly father opens the door we must continue to flavour and continue to shine so others might see and glorify our father who art in heaven in Jesus Christ name.

God bless you my dear

Dear Bob,

Sounds like what I wrote had no affect so I don't believe discussing further will be fruitful. You asked where the phrase 'hate the sin, love the sinner' is in the Bible- I didn't say that was in the Bible, but it summarizes what the Bible says. Loving others is everywhere throughout the Bible, including the 2nd greatest commandment. The phrase "So we should love satanists who follow satan?" isn't in the Bible either. But the answer is yes, Jesus says to love your neighbor (everyone) as they are made in God's image, not the sin or their evil choices.

I will end the discussion with this verse. It's out of Jesus's mouth and I'm not one to argue with Jesus. God bless...

Matthew 5:43-48

What is the righteousness of Scribes and the Pharisees?

Seun, the Lords prayer asks to not be led into temptation so why should we present an opportunity to lead ourselves into temptation? I am an old man. The wisdom of my age tells me to say no you should not because it could lead to temptation to sin. Were you going there to try to meet a mate? If so, that is a bad place to look for a mate. God bless you and I pray for wisdom in your decision.

Willie, in Matthew 5:17,18, Jesus spoke to His disciples concerning the full meaning & requirements of God's Laws. Jesus spoke about the preciousness of God's Laws & that not one of them would be removed until they were completely fulfilled. We know that the Law was given to God's Chosen, the Jews, as one of the marks of identification with Him. But it was given not only for their understanding of their relationship to their Creator, but also in their relationship to their fellow men. And they soon found out that they couldn't fully obey God's Laws because they were sinners & had no hope to obey Holy Laws. So every year sacrifice was made by the High Priest on their behalf for their sins.

So, all these Laws, including those that applied to their ceremonies, sacrifices & moral behaviour, were given as a temporary measure as God planned for the future when His Son, Jesus Christ, would come into the World to be the Perfect & Final Sacrifice for mankind's sins ( Rom 5:6). Also read Romans 8:3.

Then what you're reading in Mt 5, is Jesus saying that He had come to fulfil God's Laws: He fulfilled prophecy given about Him & alone could completely obey God's Laws & therefore would never need to sacrifice for Himself, simply because he never sinned. In fact, His Love was so great for us, that He willingly became the sacrifice in death in our stead - for our sins: He became our Substitute, our Saviour to save us from sin's penalty which is eternal death. So, if Jesus perfectly fulfilled God's Laws & became our Sacrifice, then all who believe in Him through His Blood, are also now freed from the curse of the Law ( Gal 3:13). In other words, if we still want to obey the 'old Law' to satisfy God or contribute to God accepting us, then Christ's death is counted as nothing. However, Rom 8:4 says, that "the Righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us"; the letter of the Law failed, but the Law of the Life giving Spirit (8:2) is put in our hearts to help us correctly obey God.

For me, it depends upon your intent. If you go there to preach and deliver the words of God, maybe its just okay but you may put yourself to risk to temptations but if you are just there to drink and enjoy the things that had been there, it is not good because it is not a house of God. A true follower of the Lord will not suffer himself to enjoy such worldly things.

Hello, yes, I believe the whole Bible applies. I've heard people claim that Jesus fulfilling the law is abolishing the law, that it no longer applies whatsoever. Jesus already said that is wrong in the exact same verse of Matthew 5:17. He said he was not abolishing the law. So, I believe Jesus over what random people say. Fulfilling the law was through his death to pay for our sins, so we have grace as long as we follow Jesus- this is an active pursuit though. But that doesn't mean the law is gone. Keep in mind that Israelites has more than just moral law, but civil law, and ceremonial law. We don't need to follow the Israelite specific laws, just moral law. For example, 'do not kill'. Are some claiming that it's now just fine to kill your neighbor because Jesus fulfilled the law? That would be a very difficult argument for one to make that it's totally good to kill, when the Bible clearly says the opposite.

Jesus already said what happens to people who are inactive, who do nothing, who blaspheme, who follow the world, who use grace as an excuse to sin as much as possible Matthew 7:21-23. Jesus says if you love him, then keep his commandments. John 14:15. If you don't keep them, you don't love him. If you don't love him and don't follow him, is it likely you'll be invited to spend eternity with him in heaven? Jesus warned his followers repeatedly through parables that most people will go to hell. It's interesting how some Christians are trying to claim sin is okay, that it doesn't matter and that it's wrong to say it's wrong. Satan is the great deceiver and even works within the community of believers to spread his lies. It's clear what Jesus already said, so I'm going to believe and follow him and his words, not the words of man.

James 2 and Romans 6 explain this.

Note that this is my belief through years of Bible study and prayer and you will have other Christians claim otherwise. I already know all their arguments and find them unbiblical. God bless...

I would take it to mean that if you show mercy to others, you will receive mercy from the Lord.

Just as those who want forgiveness from the Savior, must forgive those that have trespassed against them!

Don't forget, we are to strive to be Christ-like; mercy and forgiveness are attributes of Jesus Christ.