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Children, we are deep into Rev 17 with the US & Russia one upping each other. It will escalate into a regional ME attack, Rev 6:14, and only get worse from there.

God's promise to David, that he would never lack a man sitting on his throne, 1 Kings 9:5, Jeremiah 33:17, will be revoked, and the stars from heaven will fall to earth like missiles. Daniel 5:25 is upon us.

"Russia threatens to target 'sensitive' US assets as part of a 'strong' and 'painful' response to sanctions" - Business Insider

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Hey Aaron,

I was just pointing out; Revelation is similar to a book or movie that is written in a way I think is called, a frame story or cross-cutting. It is like John wrote it down as he was shown, he may have been like Daniel when Daniel was shown things, he had not a clue of its meaning like Daniel 7:15.

Like what you said about Babylon, daylight between vs 12 and vs 14. If you look in Rev. 17 the ten kings/kingdoms/countries hate the whore and they destroy Babylon. In Rev. 18 we see Babylon is fallen and what effect it has on the world. Babylon will be destroyed before the second coming of Jesus and the verses you listed.

These ten kingdoms/countries are the same that go out to make war with Jesus Revelation 17:14 and we know how they end in Rev. 19. Can we know what countries will be involved in these final days before it starts? Is Babylon a country or city or something else? It is called a whore; the mother of harlots and fornication is done.

There are many teachings out there but who is right? We may have to come to a point and accept some things have not been revealed to us. We must be ready to face what is coming, it may not be what we have been taught. My understanding, we will face what many believers in Jesus faced in the past. They were not spared from going through tribulation or being killed and we will not either, we must be ready to face the end, even if we are facing death.

God bless,

RLW

Amen to that GiGi,

God bless,

RLW

Hi Ronald

I agree that we need to ready ourselves for the coming trials.

I mentioned recently to my pastor's wife (a dear friend) that we should be training our children up to be mature not Bible School buddies knowing what may lie ahead for them.

Studying the lives of the martyrs should be encouraged and we should be aware of how and where Christians are being persecuted and martyred today.

You are right, we need to have a faith that is tough enoughbtobendure many hardships, trials, etc . As the apostles and believers of the early centuries.

May we all be strengthened and made bold in these times

Hey Tharlene,

The seven heads are seven mountains which are seven kings/kingdoms, and at the time of John, five have fallen 1. Egypt, 2. Assyrians conquered the 10 tribes, 3. Babylonian the Chaldeans, 4. Medo-Persian, 5. Greek empire, 6. Roman empire, the one that is at the time of John, when he was given the Revelation of Jesus Christ, and the seventh is yet to come. I do not think we will know this one until the end starts.

There are quite a few opinions out there on this. Some consider Rome and the Catholic Church to be a part of it because the city is known for the city on seven hills and the Holy Roman Empire as the seventh. My understanding, considering he must continue a short space does not fit that because the Holy Roman Empire was around hundreds of years.

Many things are taught covering the end times, many looks for the Church to be taken out before the tribulation starts. My understanding, scripture does not support this, and many will be lost when it starts. Those who are living must be ready, strong in our faith, same as the ones in the past as well some today when they were persecuted, beheaded, and killed in horrific ways for their belief in Jesus.

I could write more, and I know this may not answer your question, but may it help. Some things have not been revealed and many teachings are full of deception. Pray and rely on the Holy Spirit to guide you. We are to watch and be ready regardless of what comes, even if we face death because we know when it is done, we will be with Him and as He laid down His life for us, our life is His.

God bless,

RLW

could you explain verse 10 & 11

Brooke,

Maybe Acts 4:26 or Psalm 2:2?

Hi Brooke,

Could you rephrase your question so we can understand your request better?

I Want to make a video with all the Biblical events that have according and according. And I'm not sure where's the verse is about all the rulers of the land coming together. Can you send me that verse?

Revelations 19:20, Revelations 17:13, seems to be a collaboration to make 'the mark' Revelation 17:3, Revelations 17:9-12, Revelations 13:18 both say ''be wise''. Revelations 13:16-17,

Revelation 17:10 . The sixth kingdom though at the time of John's vision was the Roman kingdom it was still vaguely described since the time of Daniel's vision looking forward in time to different governments. The Roman government was the last earthy, worldly government that had no formal border to the Spiritual Kingdom of God in Christ Jesus. Once this Kingdom began it became a border to itself and all other future govenments, limiting their growth and their names because the True Kingdom on Earth prevails.

These earthly smaller kingdoms to this day are where God's Providence continues to work miracles. If Satan were not bound with chain, there would be no weakness in the World for an escape into the Spiritual Kingdom of Christ. This Heavenly Providence is Grace and a way of escape.

This is the door of Grace into Salvation in Ark of Jesus Christ and his Church and by the Providence of God. From the beginning of His Kingdom until now the door of the Ark is opened to all whom confess their sins, turn from them and by faith enter in by faith which is freedom.

When the Providence of God in the little governments of the World ceases, then Satan will be released fully and the route to escape becomes impossible because God will not prevent Satan's killing lusts. Worse yet, for the protection of the souls in the Ark of Salvation, the spiritual border crossing will be forever closed.

The tourists Ark in Kentucky may well be an example for some that are like the foolish virgins. They once entered the Ark of Salvation and instead of remaining steadfast in faith they exited a remaining open door to a gift shop to walk around and buy memories of the Ark.

The time of the Covid also seems to be under appreciating the Providence of God as a sign of the times. The day of Provocation is at hand and we as Christians are complaining about the World when it is the World (by water) Spiritual Grace that saves the way of escape across the border to the open Ark.

Christian Greetings! On the Peaceable Kingdom of Christ.

Revelation 17:10

Daniel in his vision of four beasts looked ahead from his time. Three beasts of kingdoms were more clear: Grecian, Persian and Babylonian kingdoms. More vague was a forth kingdom.

John in his vision looked back from the vision's point in time past the time of Daniel to the Assyrian and Egyptian kingdoms. At the time of the vision the vague kingdom was clearly the Roman kingdom. A total of six kingdoms with one to come after the Roman kingdom.

The seventh Kingdom is of the domain of Jesus Christ and is the last Kingdom in earth.

For your meditation.

Revelation 17:9 KJV

And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Look up, where are the seven mountains located. This tells you who the beast is. The beast is located in Rome or in Vatican City

Revelation 17:18 Tells you who the beast rules

And the woman which thou sawest is that (great city), which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

World leaders, presidents, politicians, pastors, etc

Hello Brother Chris, I am a poor choice to edge myself into the subject of Non-resistance but I see how without its presence in the life of a Christian one can wander into preparations or arming themselves for the punishment and or destruction of Babylon. It will be heathen hands as Jeremiah preached that overtake Babylon. Jeremiah 51:11, 28-29. The Christian must not interfere in God's vengeance against all unrighteousness in spiritual Babylon. The sword of opposition is not Bible doctrine. Revelation 17:12-13 Summarized- Power is give to the kings and in one mind and strength to the beast. Revelation 17:14 Summarized- The war is with the Lamb. The Lamb will overcome as he is Lord of lords and King of Kings. His followers who are with him are chosen and faithful. It is the non-resistance of these believers that they can be with the Lamb as he overcomes spiritual Babylon that great city, which is the complete opposite of New Jerusalem.

Likely there will arise those whom may riot and gain followers but they will eventually be scattered as they are resistant to submission. I am certain that repeating the vision and revelation of the Lamb may be tiresome. However another happening as "I Stood" by the Lamb was it would have been near impossible to make myself lower than He. That is how we are, how I am and how we must completely surrender to His testimony of Peace.

By faith and love. We can write more together in this short walk if time allows.

Donna Smith,

There are several opinions on this, we know Satan was the first to rebel, the first to sin, a murderer, and is the father of lies ( John 8:44). We see in Isaiah 14 God said, take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, many take vs. 12 O Lucifer son of the morning as being Satan describing his casting out.

The word Lucifer, the morning star is another word for the planet Venus, Latin roots lux (light) and ferre (to carry) it is its brightest right before sunrise. It is also called a day star because it can be seen in the daytime.

We see in ( Ezekiel 28:12-19) Is a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, where the description of Satan is taken. In ( Job 1) and ( Job 2) " the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord" (angels) Satan showed up. So at this time Satan still had access to heaven. In ( Luke 10:18) Jesus said "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven." Whether past or future? Whether it was his ranking or permanent?

Now in ( Revelation 12:7-17) and Revelation 13:1-2), the war in heaven where the red dragon and his angels are cast out into the earth. In verse 8 there is no more place for them in heaven. In verse 12 they are rejoicing in heaven and the warning, "Woe to the inhabiters of the earth" because Satan knows he only has a short time.

My understanding, Revelation 12 starts the great tribulation when Satan is permanently cast down with no more access to heaven and gives his power seat and great authority to the beast. Revelation 12, if you look at the Greek it is Satan standing on the sand of the sea when the beast ascends out of the bottomless pit. ( Revelation 9:11) ( Revelation 11:7) ( Revelation 17:8).

May this help your study, you can use, bible simple search KJV, just type in to edge, google, yahoo or whatever search you use, also this site. Type in devil, Satan, and it will pull all scripture that contains these words you can study.

God bless,

RLW

Shellon Hooten,

Revelation is hard, for one, it is not in chronological order, and not all has been revealed to us. Pray and keep in mind there are answers we may never be given. At this time there have been 3.5 years of tribulation by Satan, the beast, the false prophet, and the great whore Babylon, and Babylon was just destroyed by the ten kings/countries of the beast. ( Revelation 17, 18).

These same ten kings/kingdoms/countries will make war with Jesus, ( Revelation 17:14). They were rejoicing in heaven and "his wife hath made herself ready" and "Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb" ( Revelation 19:1-10).

In ( Revelation 19:11-21) we see Jesus coming with his armies, ( Matthew 25:31) that were in heaven, and the call to the fowls to gather to the supper of the great God. ( Ezekiel 39: 17-20) There are more scriptures on the coming of Jesus, ( Matthew 24: 29-31) ( Mark 13:24-27) ( 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17), and more. The beast and false prophet are cast into the lake of fire and the remnant of the armies are destroyed by the sword proceeding out of the mouth of Jesus. The power of His word wiped them out.

Then in Revelation 20, Satan is locked in the bottomless pit, to be there for one thousand years, and Jesus sets up His Kingdom and the camp of the saints. So scripture tells us when Jesus returns with all His holy angels/armies, He sends angels to gather His elect. Who are in this first resurrection? The description of them is in ( Revelation 20:4). Are they all that will be saved? Are they the most loyal elect that is given this honor? The key is the white throne judgment, is it only for the lost as taught? Why is the book of life opened ( Revelation 20:12)? Should we not consider ( Matthew 25:31-46) ( John 5:28-29) ( Acts 24:15). Do we overlook ( Revelation 20:15)?

I know this does not answer your question, if it can be answered, but may it inspire study.

God bless,

RLW

You are very kind Brother Dan , you made me blush ! I appreciate your posts very much . Stay here with us , we need you . Christ is keeping his eyes and ears on us all !

Sister English Sasha,

Thank you for your kind words. I really do enjoy reading your caring spiritual responses to others here, and I know they come from the heart of a kind and generous person. You are very blessed with the gift of the Holy Spirit as it is readily seen in your postings here.

May God's Holy Spirit continue to light your path forward!

God Bless.

You are a wise man Dan , there is more than enough meat in the Bible for us to chew on , it's a never ending feast for the soul , mind and heart .

UTube is like a minefield, as is all the other social media sites.it's the devils playground. I try not to go there.keep my nose in the Bible.

Job 32:8

"But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding."

God Bless

For the truth that so many fail to see: see the documentary ITS WORSE THAN YOU THINK on youtube, if still there or on rumble and for sure at revelationsofjesuschrist.c I was at first dismissive, then skeptical, then perplexed, and quickly moved to repentance. I thought like many, that I knew and wouldn't be fooled. I didn't realize how deceived I was. Time is very short. View and pray for insight and wisdom. Your in for quite an education. It is worse than you think. Realize this one thing, no matter what you believe about the jab, mark or no mark, hand or no hand, (if you understood the greek root of the word you'd understand completely), IF the mark is here, then so is the beast. One does not precede the other. When in Daniel 11:24 prophesies of the anti-Christ type (Antiochus Epiphanes), it does not preclude the end times anti-Christ. This is just a foreshadowing of things to come. As it was in the beginning so shall it be in the end. Adam and Eve were in paradise, free from death. They were warned not to take into them what was forbidden or the would die (spiritually) and once consumed or taken into their bodies, they did die and they too were deceived. It just wasn't as the deceiver had claimed not. We have been warned from the beginning and we still don't see. We haven't loved God so we have been given a great delusion. We have all been deceived on a grand scale. Just as the religious leaders of Jesus time who knew the "old Testament" backwards and forwards did not see in the spirit, but only thru their carnal minds, they too missed the reality of the Messiah. They couldn't accept it and refused to believe it, to the point of killing God. So to, think we know, we think we will see it all coming. Just as Jesus said he would return like a thief in the night, (catch everyone unaware, unexpectedly), so to in parallel and counterfeit to Christ the beast has entered in peaceably (which translates unnoticed). Wake up you've been deceived.

Hey John,

Like is said, many people have a plethora of interpretations on Revelation. The word antichrist has developed into a being, along with seven years into a story of fiction. The word antichrist is only in first and second John ( 1 John 2:18,22) (1 John4:3) ( 1John 1:7), if you read, there are billions of antichrists today.

If you read Revelation there is not one, or two, but three, Satan, the beast, and the false prophet. Satan is cast down to earth Revelation 12; this is permanent because no place is left for him in heaven, he gives his seat, authority, and power to the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit. In Revelation 13 this beast comes out of the sea (bottomless pit) ( Revelation 11:7) ( Revelation 17:8). The second beast (false prophet) Makes image and causes those to worship the first beast and take the mark ( Revelation 13:11-18)

I am not familiar with J. Vernon Mcgee so I cannot comment on what he said. Many takes Daniel, Mathew and some of Paul and paint some fantastic picture of end time. If you are studying Revelation read it from front to back 5-10 times with no preconceived ideas in your head before you start to study it.

Many interpretations use scripture and prophecies that have already been fulfilled, pray before you study and let the Holy Spirit lead you. Clear your mind from all the things you have heard and understand that somethings have not been revealed to us as yet. Some things we will not know until they happen.

Walk in the light,

RLW

No the vaccine is not the mark of the beast, You will know when it is presented to the World, as a method to allow you to buy & sell products..it will be similar to a patch which will have an muslim signet on it..Remember there is no FEAR in CHRIST..i RECCOMEND READING REVELATION 17:17,which states that GOD is the Director of the last day events..

Kevin, have you been born again? Working with the Holy Spirit you can be comforted and know that power is available to you to stand in these evil days.

Everything that's happening, Jesus told his disciples and the whole world through them. Everyone receives power in their prayers. He doesn't keep secrets. Matthew 24 and Luke 21; book of Revelation. The end is written in 2 Peter chapter 3. EVERY PERSON ON EARTH has an opportunity right now to lock arms with Jesus Christ and escape the End of Days. One of the final signs is the rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem; with Israel's enemies surrounding it.

The world hates Israel just a bit more than the United States.

On YouTube, search Revelation Station Movie. It's actors with scads of news and movie clips; with sound effects of the trumpets that will make your skin crawl.

These aren't those lame Rapture movies of the 70's. These are high tech like what our Military has now: missiles, nukes,drones. Space weapons.

RFID CHIP technology, and much more. Our ability to snuff out ourselves is frightening.

Anyway, the signs are happening and everyone must either choose Life with Jesus, or Death with Antichrist

I agree.Too many doctors do not like what these experimental injections - not vaccines are doing to people long-term. A dear friend of mine dropped dead from a heart attack two days after her second injection. She had never had heart issues and was only 42 years old. We must not be forced to get these injections. We must trust God to keep us.

Very few have suffered any side effects or possible deaths from the covid-19 vaccine from the information I have heard from the time vaccination started in January 2021 until now. Nor are people unknowingly being injected microchips.

Governments around the world are trying to rid the world of covid19, if they were trying to kill off billions of people they would just let covid-19 do it for them or even Ebola would do it. They wouldn't try to create a vaccine.

When the Beast and his Antichrist comes to power, it will be known, when the mark of the beast is initiated, one will be in the situation if they don't get it their livelihood is completely disrupted, they will not be able to work, receive medical care, by medicines, buy food, pay rent, buy a house, drive a car, excetera excetera excetera

My friend the churches are in the same place they have always been. However there is many churches that have left the old paths and fallen for the new modern day scene. The Pastors are preaching all the love but no repentance. They have fallen for what the news media and the governments are telling them. The people of today are just like the children of Israel in the day of Nebuchadnezzar and the 3 Hebrew Children. They are bowing done to the kings and governments. They are looking to man for their salvation. The people need to get back as instructed in II Chronicles 7:14. These vaccines are the way the for the governments to control the people. They are being used along with the media to cause men's hearts to fear the ways of man instead of fearing the Lord God. The Bible says not to fear man for he can only take destroy the body but to fear God who can destroy both the body and soul in hell. We need a whole lot of repentance and then a whole lot of preying from the children of God to make this thing even start to get right. Presidents and their governmental officers can only go so far. God is STILL in control. He has not given up. Matthew 24:3-14 tells us that things must come to pass before the end shall come. Pestilences are here and the COVID is one of them. These vaccines and mask are just a way for the devil to destroy the believers faith in God. God will carry us through this thing. If you are his then just keep trusting in him. He will deliver his either here on earth or when we reach that city. No Christian will ever feel death. We just move up to live with him forever. John 14:27 reminds us that Jesus leaves us peace and it is better than anything the world can give. So we need not let our hearts be troubled for we are his and nothing can pluck us from his hands. Keep the faith and hold strong for morning is coming and the Son will shine forever. May God Bless you in this time and touch you and your family.

Where are the Globalists in all this.? The experimental shot that people are taking is dripping & injuring millions. This is a bio weapon being used to get the population down to 500 million. My family is being affected. Where are the churches?

Kevin

Hi Richard Someones got a serious imagination I want to see that myself Chapter and verse and it has to say pharmacy.

They are referring to Rev. 9:21, 18:23,21:8, 22:15 the word sorcerer is the word pharmakeia but that is not talking about the medical field that is talking about so called white witchcraft and crystals and things of that nature. These are known as the natural healing field but again, anything can be taken out of balance, Prove all things with Gods Word thats our Standard In His Service