Discuss Revelation 22 Page 18

Ruben, here's a technique that's a bit different than the other really good suggestions offered. If you can imagine your life as a pizza, and each slice represents a different aspect of your life. One slice is work, another is church, another slice is family, and another slice might be recreation....and so on. When a slice or a part of that slice is missing, there's a hole. And, we being our human selves try to fill that hole. Often we do it with quick fixes that aren't lasting and negative. The key is to find a long term positive to fill that missing slice. I honestly don't care if you have same sex attraction, but is that new? Is there a void, maybe intimacy or love or a connectedness that is missing. I feel lust, not love. I fall in "Love" with every pretty girl I see. My opinion all humans want to love and be loved. We seek love from fellow people. WE really need to seek God's love. It's harder sometimes, because it's not the BLAM in your face love that we sometimes get from people. Don't get me wrong, it certainly can be. But, it's different. So, think about is something missing? Is it sexual lust, that is looking to fill a void? I never think bars or clubs are the best places to meet long-term partners. That's why their dark and alcohol is involved. Online dating seems to be about hook ups. Use your other areas of life to help you as you come to terms and learn coping strategies to help you. If, this is what you want. You may slip, but keep coming back to God and coming back to scripture. People in the faith community seem to quickly condemn people who have same sex attraction. That's you and your relationship with God, not them and you. Use the SMART method of goal setting Specific, Measurable, Attainable, Realistic, Time-line (does it have a time restriction). Is your goal to be celibate those things? Meet like-minded people in healthy environments. I pray for God to open doors for people go through and close doors He doesn't want us in. God Loves You.

Is Yeshua really Lucifer?

Jesus = Yeshua = Morning Star

The Complete Jewish Bible by "messianic believer" Dr David Stern writes: "Presenting the Word of God as a unified Jewish book, the Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) is a translation for Jews and non-Jews alike. It connects readers with the Jewishness of the Messiah. Names and key terms are returned to their original Hebrew and presented in easy-to-understand transliterations.

The CJB is a translation of the Bible into English by Dr. David H. Stern. It consists of Dr. Stern's revised translation of the Old Testament (Tanakh) plus his original Jewish New Testament (B'rit Hadashah) translation in one volume.

Jesus = Yeshua = Morning Star

In Isaiah 14 (REMOVED LUCIFER AND INSERTS MORNING STAR) Their argument is Lucifer is a "Latin" word that does not belong in English. About 20% of English comes from Latin. Does Taco not belong in English since it is Spanish?

Satanists and Luciferians know who Lucifer is. Read Carefully

Isaiah 14: (the fall of Lucifer)

11 Your pride has been brought down to Sh'ol (Hell)

with the music of your lyres,

under you a mattress of maggots,

over you a blanket of worms.'

(KJV uses Lucifer Stern inserts MORNING STAR who FELL from Heaven)

12 "How did you come to fall from the heavens,

MORNING STAR, son of the dawn?

How did you come to be cut to the ground,

conqueror of nations?

13 You thought to yourself, 'I will scale the heavens,

I will raise my throne above God's stars.

I will sit on the Mount of Assembly

far away in the north.

14 I will rise past the tops of the clouds,

I will make myself like the Most High.

who fell from heaven going to the pit of Hell? THE MORNING STAR is Jesus

Jesus = Yeshua = Morning Star

Who is the Morning Star? Stern says Jesus is Yeshua

Revelation 22: 16 "I, (Jesus) Yeshua, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Messianic communities. I am the Root and Offspring of David, the bright MORNING STAR

Jesus is Yeshua the morning star

It's nothing. Thought it might be someone from a church I went to 35 years ago. Reliving early street ministry days

Greetings Victor, there are two types of rewards. one for the righteous and another for the unrighteous.

2 Peter 2:13 And shall receive the REWARD reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;

Writing of Judas Acts 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. (his pieces of silver for betraying Christ)

2 Timothy 4:14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:

This is not a good reward.

Then there are the rewards for the just in faith.

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Jesus speaks in Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

what do you mean Z

Will follow after the spirit. For every person in the world there are sins that tempt. The key is to follow after the spirit. When the lust of sin comes knocking at the door don't answer it. Watch a good movie, listen to Christian radio, listen to some nice Christian music like the Gaithers, Larnelle Harris, Big Daddy Weaver, and Keith Green has some wonderful music from his era. Call a good friend or a prayer line. The key is to follow Christ because he is the resurrection and the life. He is the hope of Resurrection.this means eternal life in a beautiful paradise with mountains and trees and streams and animals and the presence of precious believers do out history. It's well worth the sacrifice I've seen this not healthy for you anyways.

I have been reading 1st Corinthians 15. Paul's exclamation of the Resurrection she's beautiful.

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"Can celibacy work?" Celibacy is an acceptable state to be in (whether called or compelled to be in) & it is a demonstration to the Lord & yourself that you are serious about what you are going through. But celibacy alone will be a struggle if done in your own strength. Your whole attitude is to be close to the Lord through the study of His Word, in prayer (especially when the temptations come), in meeting with other Christians who understand your situation & able to support & counsel you, are all essential in gaining victory. You should never feel alone & isolated in being celibate, but to rejoice that your struggles against the flesh are for the Lord & His Glory & that He is mindful of what you're going through. The apostle Paul prayed earnestly that the Lord would remove the 'thorn in his flesh' (possibly an optical problem), but the Lord was quiet over the matter. You can read about it in 2 Corinthians 12:7-10; the key thought here is: that "His Grace (for the infirmity) is given in sufficient measure; & His Strength (to you) is made perfect in (your) weakness". Ruben, you can really prove the Lord in a mighty, special way as you leave your desires completely with Him & trust Him for the strength to persevere & overcome.

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Ruben, I really sense your frustration & helplessness. I am a heterosexual so I hope someone else who is going through the same conflicts can respond as well, though I thought to pen a few lines to you.

I understand from your plea, that you are a believer in Jesus Christ, you have homosexual tendencies but trying to live as Christ wants you to. I confess that I'm ignorant how these 'other lifestyles' arise, except to discern that our fallen nature has played havoc with how we are, the way we think, & the things we do. You know the Scriptures about the way God views this type of lifestyle, but what He does see is that you recognize His view on this issue & that only through desire for a new life & abstinence from that which is wrong, is what you too are sensing.

As I mentioned, we often have 'thorns in the flesh', simply because we are human, imperfect, & with sinful flesh. Some may have a physically deformity or with lower mental capacity or carrying emotional pain from a young age. Yours affects your need for love & companionship which is a very strong compulsion. In my case, I was born with colour blindness (to some degree), & though this generally hasn't affected me in my daily life, it destroyed my sole ambition for a career as an airline pilot. I struggled with this 'loss' for many years & wondered why the Lord allowed this to be my lot. As a Christian, I realize that there is always a purpose in our lives; for me, it could have meant an air accident which could have brought disastrous results, but I could see that all things happen for a reason. I never ever settled into any career that I could enjoy, but content to be in Christ.

Your struggle is different I know but the same principles apply. If Satan tries to get me in a weak area of my life, I should expect his attack there, I must withstand him, I must cleave to Christ & I must press on in faith. It will never be an easy road to tread, but you must resist Satan at every instance. (page 2).

The other person may not know they are dragging spiritual bondage behind them: like an unclean spirit. (It's scripture)

I'm celibate. If mr. unclean shows up,

Put on praise music You love and read some chapters. Don't be alone with them till you know their story.

Anyone else dealing with same sex attraction and trying to live a Celibate life have any tips? Can this lifestyle really work? Is it really the best choice for my situation?

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You may not be able to do Scriptural comparisons, since only the very learned who know both the Bible & Quran well are able to do, so all you can do is:

a. tell them that we (Christians) agree that the Bible as given to us by God, is complete from beginning (with Creation) to the end (destruction of the Earth & the bringing in of the new heavens & Earth freed at last from sin's corruption). And God warns us in Revelation 22:18,19: "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." So what Jesus (by the Angel) has said, is that we are forbidden to add anything more to what God has revealed to us or else God will judge us.

b. the Muslim will then say to you that this is false & why has Allah then given us the Quran? You cannot enter into debate about this as you & I can't give clear answers about Quranic writings, but we can tell them the reason why ONLY the biblical message is important: that is, we are all sinners (Muslims will agree to that, though their understanding about sin is slightly different to ours), & as sinners God has to judge us (because He is Holy & Just), we're found guilty as a result & sent to Hell forever. We earlier did tried to obey God & do our best, but all our good efforts were not acceptable to Him & we remained guilty. But since God loves us so much ( John 3:16), He had to do something permanent: He gave of Himself, through Jesus, the "Word of God" & (a Soul) (Quran calls Him Kalimat'ullah, (Surah 4:171).

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2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance

John 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink

Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Does your last name begin with Z ?

Philippians 3:2 and Revelation 22:15

Beware of dogs ( Gal. 5:15), beware of evil workers, beware of the concision ( Romans 2:28)

Revelation 22:14-15.

Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the Tree of Life, and may enter in through the gates Into the city.

For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

You have to stop and ponder on what real dogs do. Their noses are always where they shouldn't be, etc.

It's stunning to ponder. I've worked with people like that. Run in packs; respect nothing; have to be the king of the pack.

I said it was brutal.

A spirit is a demon; dog spirit.

I know that God was watching over me when I was very young. I should been electrocuted several times,I should have been shot, by a shotgun. Burn do to and explosion, twice. That when I was very young; I'm 63 years old now, and God have been calling me all of my life. I tried to drink it away to gambling it away: if God would have given me my just reward that I deserve, I personally wouldn't be here.but because of his mercy and grace; and with all of the chances my Lord has given me: I finally accepted the call to the to the ministry. Thanks be too God,hekept me from falling any deeper in sin. We need to wake up, repent, pray turn back from all of our wicked ways. Reference to revevelation.

Hi Trevor, hope you are stay well

I am praying for you.....

Eve coveted knowledge from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

The Godhead decided to prevent them from eating from the Tree of Life, because they would live eternally in their disobedient, fallen state.

The Tree of Life is found residing in Revelation 22:2

I was busy today. Got to babysit tomorrow :) I can't believe many of you spent all day tearing into Genesis and Revelation again. No one mentioned the LET US scriptures or Gen. 3:22 ONE OF US. The Godhead speaking to each other.

There are two Trees! The KNOWLEDGE of good and evil; and The Tree of Life (which refers to Jesus because he offers Eternal Life.

3:22. And the Lord God said Behold, the man is become as One of US, to know good and evil: and now lest he put forth his hand and take also of the Tree of Life, and eat, and live forever.

God set a flaming sword to keep the Tree of Life. It's location now: Revelation 22:2

When Adam & Eve were created they were spiritually connected to God. When they disobeyed and ate the fruit, that connection was severed. How angry was God? In verse 21, He made them clothing.

God is the Alpha (beginning) and the Omega ( the ending). He knows everything. He doesn't cause pain and suffering. People bring it on themselves. Or they listen to the satanic I WILL, who at that moment had the deed to the earth. Adams failure in the garden as a son of God, put that responsibility on Jesus. He won the deed back on the Cross. Now he is a defeated foe awaiting the final battle as written in Revelation.

The only way we can be made spiritually alive to God is through His son, Jesus Christ! You must be born again and Receive the Holy Spirit; be sealed; be baptized!

Has anybody asked the Holy Spirit for a gift? 1 Corinthians 12:31: COVET EARNESTLY the BEST GIFTS.

HOLY SPIRIT GIFTS:

Romans 11:29, 12: all of it.

1 Corinthians 12: all of it.

Your Life as a Christian will bloom when you are tight with the Holy Spirit; who is God and many other qualities. When you ask Him to come into your life & kick his shoes off... you will fall deeply and reverently, in love with Him. If you ask Him to search you and take out anything that is not like Jesus, you need to be serious and reverent.

Continuation...

In the 7th Seal, the Trumpets are introduced. This Seal signifies the last days of the Great Tribulation of Matthew 24. The Trumpets sound at the very last hour of the Tribulation. Then the Bowls of the Wrath of God are found in the last Trumpet. It is that last hour that is referred to as The Day of The Lord or Day of His Wrath. See 14:7.

In any case, Genesis 37:9 is a reference to people, more specifically, Joseph's brothers. Now, although the reference in Judges 5:20 appears to be to Angels, it is more specifically a reference to earthly Kings at war.

In Revelation 22:16, Jesus refers to Himself as The Bright and Morning Star.

Joel 2:10 seems to be speaking of more than just stars. It is speaks of the powerful and influential, whose luster, whose brightness, whose power, appeal and influence are diminished by the army of God. But who is that army? It is an army of people.

Again, who is the star in Revelation 9:1?

I hope this answers your question. But keep in mind that in everyday speak and historically, we sometimes refer to prominent people as stars, too.

Thanks for asking. It would be good to hear your opinion on this also.

Carlos Ramirez Trevio

IF a Jew believes in Jesus he ceases to be a Jew and becomes a Christian.

Is Yeshua really Lucifer?

The Complete Jewish Bible by "messianic believer" Doctor David Stern writes: Presenting the Word of God as a unified Jewish book, the Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) is a translation for Jews and non-Jews alike. It connects readers with the Jewishness of the Messiah. Names and key terms are returned to their original Hebrew and presented in easy-to-understand transliterations.

The CJB is a translation of the Bible into English by Dr. David H. Stern. It consists of Dr. Stern's revised translation of the Old Testament (Tanakh) plus his original Jewish New Testament (B'rit Hadashah) translation in one volume.

In Isaiah 14 (REMOVED LUCIFER AND INSERTS MORNING STAR) Their argument is Lucifer is a "Latin" word that does not belong in English. About 20% of English comes from Latin. Does Taco not belong in English since it is Spanish?

Satanists and Luciferians know who Lucifer is. Read Carefully

Isaiah 14: (the fall of Lucifer)

11 Your pride has been brought down to Sh'ol (Hell)

with the music of your lyres,

under you a mattress of maggots,

over you a blanket of worms.'

(KJV uses Lucifer Stern inserts MORNING STAR who FELL from Heaven)

12 "How did you come to fall from the heavens,

MORNING STAR, son of the dawn?

How did you come to be cut to the ground,

conqueror of nations?

13 You thought to yourself, 'I will scale the heavens,

I will raise my throne above God's stars.

I will sit on the Mount of Assembly

far away in the north.

14 I will rise past the tops of the clouds,

I will make myself like the Most High.'

So who fell from heaven going to the pit of Hell? THE MORNING STAR.

Who is the Morning Star? Stern says Jesus is Yeshua

Revelation 22: 16 "I, (Jesus) Yeshua, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Messianic communities. I am the Root and Offspring of David, the bright MORNING STAR.

Did you catch it Jesus is Yeshua the MORNING STAR in

There are no new revelations -- If someone says they received a new revelation they are saying Jesus was wrong? John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is FINISHED: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Is Yeshua really Lucifer?

The Complete Jewish Bible by "messianic believer" Doctor David Stern writes:

Presenting the Word of God as a unified Jewish book, the Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) is a translation for Jews and non-Jews alike. It connects readers with the Jewishness of the Messiah. Names and key terms are returned to their original Hebrew and presented in easy-to-understand transliterations.

The CJB is a translation of the Bible into English by Dr. David H. Stern. It consists of Dr. Stern's revised translation of the Old Testament (Tanakh) plus his original Jewish New Testament (B'rit Hadashah) translation in one volume.

In Isaiah 14 (REMOVED LUCIFER AND INSERTS MORNING STAR) Their argument is Lucifer is a "Latin" word that does not belong in English. About 20% of English comes from Latin. Does Taco not belong in English since it is Spanish?

Satanists and Luciferians know who Lucifer is. Read Carefully

Isaiah 14: (the fall of Lucifer)

11 Your pride has been brought down to Sh'ol (Hell)

with the music of your lyres,

under you a mattress of maggots,

over you a blanket of worms.'

(KJV uses Lucifer Stern inserts MORNING STAR who FELL from Heaven)

12 "How did you come to fall from the heavens,

MORNING STAR, son of the dawn?

How did you come to be cut to the ground,

conqueror of nations?

13 You thought to yourself, 'I will scale the heavens,

I will raise my throne above God's stars.

I will sit on the Mount of Assembly

far away in the north.

14 I will rise past the tops of the clouds,

I will make myself like the Most High.'

So who fell from heaven going to the pit of Hell? THE MORNING STAR.

Who is the Morning Star? Stern says Jesus is Yeshua

Revelation 22: 16 "I, (Jesus) Yeshua, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Messianic communities. I am the Root and Offspring of David, the bright MORNING STAR.

Did you catch it Jesus is Yeshua the MORNING STAR in Rev 22 and in Isaiah 14 Yeshua fell from heaven making him Lucifer essentially

Hello Trevor,

I greet you in name Our Lord Jesus Christ. Hope you're well.

I am a new Christian, I gave my life to Our Lord nearly 2 years ago and it's been the best thing I have ever done. I've had joy and peace in my life since then.

I was baptised many years ago, but because of my immaturity I went back to sin.

The answer to your question " how to get closer to The Messiah " First of all the bible says " For whoever shall call in the name of the Lord shall be saved" Rom 10:13

Believe, that God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, the Messiah, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Then you have to be baptised.

Acts 2:38 Peter said, Repent, and be baptised in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of our sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

A few more scriptures for you to look at:

Ephesians 2:8-9

2 Timothy 2:15

1 John 1:9

Romans 6:23

1 John 5:13

Mark 16:16

Romans 10:9-10

Hope these scriptures will help and give you a good start to getting closer to Jesus Christ our Saviour.

God Bless you, and I will pray Trevor that you will get the wisdom & knowledge for God's Words.

There is nothing in the New Testament commanding a follower of Christ to tithe;period. Stop lying on GOD and telling people that tithing and giving an offering is the same thing.If you feed people things that the Bible does not say.that,s antichrist speaking.'God says H e loves a cheerful giver,not a cheerful tither. Revelation 22:18&19,2 Tim.4:1-3.All scripture is given by inspiration of GOD;not man.when I think about tithing i think about Exodus 35and36 when the people were told to stop bringing.GOD,s people will give without being told.GOD Bless.

Trevor : Jesus is all Thur the Gospel! Read Acts Chapter 10. The centurion find's the way! Read Acts chapter 2.About 20 nationality's were given the truth! Peter in Vs 14 -38! 38-,says repents and be baptized in the name Of Jesus Christ This is the plan of salvation St. John 1: 1-18! Colossians 2:8,9,10-12!

Mathew 11:27 Jesus no one knows who he or the father is unless he reveals it. Mathew 16:17 Jesus tells Peter he knew Jesus was the son of God not because a flesh and blood human told him but because Father God told him. Sounds like you know Jesus is the son of God there for you must be called. If you want to be closer to Jesus pray and read his word ask him to show himself and he will.

I think the Lord hates dogs. but I don't know about other animals

Revelation 22:15 Context


12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

You are correct Rosanna Jackson, the bible is changing. It did say Lion and has been changed to Wolf. There are many changes. Revelation 22:18-19. Many will say but God would not allow the word to be changed. Well the very fact that He put that in Revelation 22:18-19 tells us the Word will change and look what is going to happen to the ones that change it. Very sad indeed. Stay strong in the Lord. The devil is full of deceit and is deceiving many followers of Christ.

Some years ago i had an experience that changed my life. I dont think I was totally awake or awake at all until this single event that spurred me to start creating artwork. the experience was much like that of falling like free falling. I also remember having significant amount of knowledge uploaded o to speak intto my mind. I am not delusional or insane, I really need to know what that was. I have always believed in the lord especially after this event. during this event I had a intense euphoric feeling of love and light. I witnessed my self grow younger and look very youthful and had strange incidents occur in th days proceeding. So what was that what is the 11 11 phenomena and 22 i see