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Gigi.

Part 2.The transition.

Israel was the only Nation given a God given religion, they were asked to repent. Here you have a great transition, the veil was rent earlier and now we see a transition from law to grace, No more circumcision of the flesh but of the heart. that's why John the baptist said in Matthew 3:8-10 "Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Paul says it in Romans 1:16. "Chronology" it is to the Jew first. This conversation of repentance can only be given to a God given Nation and religion. (JUDAISM.) No longer Identified by circumcision of the flesh but Identified with Christ and THEN carry the message to the ends of the earth.

They were to repent and be baptized believing on the Lord Jesus Christ.

When we are saved we are baptized by water to give a witness that we are baptized by the Holyspirit and Identified with Christ. So all throughout Acts these steps were highlighted.

There was an beginning of a new covenant.

John the baptist was preparing the way for the Lord for Israel. He came in screaming prepare the way for the Lord

Announcing a kingdom "Before " the King was rejected, This was the baptism of John.

When Jesus sent the Desciples out to teach all baptizing them in the Name of the Father, Son, and Holyspirit, That speaks of the working power of his Death and Resurrection to those who believe.

See Part 3.

Dear brother Alex N, when you talk about being born again, it sounds like something people have to do themselves. Now you could elaborate a little on what they can not do, think u not? We know that everything comes from the Lord, no one gets there without God the Father Himself. Ephesians 2:18 and mm.

But what we can contribute is and tell the people we meet that they should believe for their own part. so that they do not fare badly on the last day of God. Because faith comes from preaching, or what they hear right? So that they may repent and believe from dead works and believe in the Living God Jesus Christ. Romans 1:16-17

Romans 6:10-11

Thank you that you will never forget what He has done for you. Know that you are highly loved by our gracious God and in what you have been handed down. (if the grammar is wrong forgive me). What gift u have get from Him is precious, always stand strong in the Living Word of God.

God bless u and yours in Jesus name, love u in Christ.

If you're responding to News. Please stop watching news sources. Focus on the Good news, written within scripture: Psalms 37, Galatians 5:16,17,

If you would 1st please consider the way it makes you feel. As you stated "horrified" that's not of GOD. Galatians 5:22-25,

2nd please consider all around you. Is there peace, is there light, anything to be thankful for? Is searching out news also symbolic of wanting to "know" what's happening in the news" Genesis 2:17, Romans 16:19,

3rd consider why there's only bad, horrible, divisive news? Hebrews 6:8, Proverbs 22:5, Why do they report the one horrible thing or person & not the million good? Is it meant to trigger rage? Hebrews 12:1, Luke 6:43-45,

1John 2:16, Titus 1:15, 2Samuel 22:27, Psalms 18:26, 1John 3:3, 2Peter 3, James 3:17, James 1:27, Philippians 4:8, Romans 8,

1Corinthians 4:5,

The Word also says: Numbers 11:12, Jude 1,

Hopefully these are helpful & encouraging

I am horrified to see what is going on. Lives destroyed by mistakes made decades ago. Men turning into women and vise versa.

Criminals allowed to go free to commit more crimes.

I pray to God , read scripture ; but still deeply troubled.

Moses wrote the first 5 books of the Bible.

Read slow. An event may be written in chapter 1, and more added in the next chapter.

Adams name means Man, in Hebrew.

Eve's name defines in Hebrew, man with a womb.

He was Formed from dust. She was Made from a rib.

Nothing is said about Adam being made with a womb inside of him.

It's easier to understand if we pay close attention to what God was doing (verbs). He created, He formed, He made, He took, He blew the breath of life, He spoke

I had to learn that in Genesis; not to speed read.

We need to follow bloodlines through a Genealogy charts.

As it is done now, people reuse the same names. Jesus's bloodline was through Adam & Eve's 3rd son, Seth.

Someday a human baby would be born and called Immanuel (GOD WITH US). By the time we get to Luke 1, here we see that Mary consents to the plan of the Godhead (LET US, in Genesis 1:26) She is overshadowed by the Holy Spirit. Joseph was not the body father. He and Mary had no relations; they waited until AFTER the birth of Jesus.

Jesus was fully God (Godhead; Romans 1:20), and fully human. He had DNA.

Why did it happen this way? EARTH WAS CREATED FOR MAN. Only humans can have dominion on earth. Satan had no dominion to be on earth. He had no body and took a serpents body to tempt Adam and Eve. Adam lost the dominion to satan.

On the Cross, Jesus won back that dominion and gave it back to humans. He gave His Believers (Christians) also, His Power and Authority to speak, heal, raise the dead, lead to salvation; BIND the activity of satan in human lives. If we aren't taught that, we live like orphans and get entangled in sin, frequently.

If our lives hurt, are confused, addicted to alcohol, drugs, porn, etc. Either we are not saved at all, or do not know what we have as believers in Jesus.

Ephesians 6, our satanic enemies are invisible. "Their fruit" exposes them: confusion, fear, torments, hatred, envy, they are illegal on earth!!

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God WITH US. [Jesus]

{Comment} Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]

Upon being born again, Jesus gives the Holy Spirit to teach us scripture, comfort us, convict us of sin, enable us to be witnesses. Stay in the New Testament at first.

To the church of God:

I know God speaks to you. I would ask for your prayers. You know the prayers of the saints. You know who you are. I have read you comments. Your confidence in the Lord Jesus Christ is known unto God. Your prayers are my delight. Thank you.

I pray for all of you as we have to pray for each other.

Romans 1:11-12

Grace and peace from our God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Matthew 1:23-25

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:29

Romans 1:20

Isaiah 7:14

Hebrews 1:8

Isaiah 44:6

Dear "D W L", yes thank you hallelujah, nothing is impossible for our God. Jesus Christ, by the kingdom of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

Romans 1:16-17 Stay strong in the Lord Jesus, God have blessed us all with heavenly wisdom and understanding. Love u in Christ.

Dear "Robert DeHaan", in peace. You're probably not the only one who's becoming a TV slave these days. I myself try to do what the Lord expects of me. Read and pray for all people, rulers, kings and Israel, peace be upon Jerusalem. And you probably do too.

Everything takes its time, Ecclesiastes 3:1-8

Even though we are retired, time is short. It goes so fast during the day, suddenly one has passed, the month has passed, the year has passed. But i think we should comfort ourselves with: Romans 1:16-17 for example. Then i can thank the Lord that. That time is over. Young people's hustle and bustle and think of everything they should have and done.

See in the conscience, is it good? All good hopefully. But i wish i could spend all my time with the Lord. It will be as our dear Paul says, Romans 7:19

Then it's good to come here on the web and know we have someone who has it like us. Pray and be present. There is always something. Witness outside standing, as soon as i get an opportunity in time and out of time. 2 Timothy 4:2 and continue to pray. Ill think it is a service, and could sit back and be the one present. Always ready and reach out a hand, in Jesus name right? That is the hope we have, to be enveloped in the love of God in Jesus Christ now and forever.

Stand strong brother and if i cant see u in this life. I see u in next. God bless us in Jesus name, Love u in Christ.

Dear Adam

My native language is not English but Greek. And my English is not that good as you have surely noticed

As I see it, the KJV translation is a very good translation. Obviously there are some mistranslations and mistakes since translating from one language to another sometimes, few times not always, can not give the right or the very precise interpretation or impression.

But lets talk specifically about the word Godhead. Question. Godhead means Head of God? A somehow group of persons that are Divine?

Anyway the actual greek word in Romans 1:20 is THEIOTIS. It means DIVINITY, and this is how it is written in modern Greek as well. In all versions of the Gospel in Greek, ancient and modern, it is the same, I have never read/heard anything different. Now there is another word in Greek, the word THEOTIS. It is almost the same, the only difference is the letter "I" between letters "E" and "O". But that changes the meaning of the word completely, from Divinity to Godhead. But they are different things, not the same.

Now in my opinion, what Paul is trying to say in the specific verse? "V20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse"

Change the word Godhead with the word Divinity. It makes more sence, doesn't it? It means that the power of God and His Divine nature are shown to people through His creation. This is how I have always read it, tought it, heard of it so far back here in Greece.

Now for the rest you write in your post dear brother I am sorry I can not really answer I can only give you an answer for the specific word. But maybe I am wrong, maybe I dont understand the meaning of the word Godhead as it really is. Anyway one can search that on internet or in encyclopedias or christian books. It would be interesting to see how it is translated in other languages like French, Spanish, German etc

God Bless You

That's right Adam, well said, I agree with you. Now as far as the word "Godhead" is concerned, if we talk about the scripture in Romans 1:20 the word "Theiotis" in the Greek text is actually translated in English as "Divinity" not Godhead. But still words like Godhead (maybe Godhood or even Deity?) can be successfully used to describe God as well. My opinion...

Hi Bro Giannis,

I agree with you, it is very beneficial to have these conversation's, as it forces us to continually revisit scripture, think, pray, and meditate, until hopefully over time, the truth finally becomes evident.

Regarding your query about the Sabbath, I will comment on that, but I would like to mention that I believe that "all of the bible scripture should be in agreement", and when it doesn't, we need to continue to review, and study until it does.

Example: Many Christians state God's 10 Commandments were nailed to the cross, and that now, because of the NC we are no longer under the Law. It is my belief, that this does NOT agree with what the gospel of Jesus Christ taught, nor the Apostles including Paul. I believe that this doctrine comes from misunderstanding many of Pauls letters in the bible.

Note: Remember Paul preaches the "same gospel" as Jesus Christ/God as he is a servant of Jesus/God.

Romans 1:1

"Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,"

Those that believe and tell us that the 10 Commandments are no longer valid seem to base this entirely on scripture by Paul. Some say that to try to keep the Commandments are works, and works are no longer required, per their interpretation here again, of Paul. Keep in mind this doctrine does not agree with Jesus, the original Apostles, and is even in conflict what Paul teaches, and "observes himself." Paul began teaching after Jesus death, and continued to teach and observe the commandments, as did all of the apostles, including keeping the 7th day Sabbath!

If Paul taught that the Commandments were dead, why did he observe them?????

The early Church observed the Commandments including the Sabbath. Many scholars believe that the Sabbath (as observed by Christian's) changed at some point during the 3rd century AD. This can easily be researched in more detail if one desires.

GB

Hello, this is a frequently asked question and you can do an advanced search and find lots of discussions about it with verses if you desire.

Here are some verses to get you started. God bless.

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:29

Romans 1:20

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Isaiah 7:14

Matthew 1:23-25

Hebrews 1:8

Isaiah 44:6

Would you want to fallow a GOD that made you do whatever HE wanted you to do?. Walk around like a bunch of robots saying "I love you GOD" or would you want to fallow a GOD that gave you the choice? GOD created us for HIS pleasure and if we don't please HIM, we will be done away with once and for all after White Throne judgement. There are a remnant and a few elect that are predestined meaning GOD will push them in the direction HE needs them to go. Paul's freewill was to destroy the church but CHRIST had other plans for him. My free will is to fallow GOD with all my heart, soul and mind for I know how great the reward for doing right and how great the judgement for doing wrong. What kind of life would it be if we had a GOD that made us do right? GOD created every single individual, unique and for HIS pleasure. The 1st earth age all HIS creation lived in love, peace and harmony where even Lucifer sang with CHRIST both called morning stars for their brilliance. Millions if not billions of years in harmony until Satan wanted it all and the downfall where he drew a 1/3 of Gods children with him. They had free will.

Dear "John", in peace even before i got to know the Lord, i wanted to do good. But before, i was dead in my work because i did not believe in Jesus Christ. Romans 1:16-17

God bless u and yours, i love u in Christ always.

Dear "Sara Smith", love u too Romans 1:16-17

Thanks "Dav47" for the nice read, really informative. And I do not doubt any of that. Look at the Nordics too. We have put God in the name of Jesus first all these years. This has given us greater blessings than we can see. All countries that value the Lord Jesus are doing well. It is the state powers here that make the big difference, the King has decided that we should profess to be Christians. Amen i hope forever.

But we see threatening controls, persecution, distress and war, against Jesus' lovers. Therefore, stand steady for the rest of your time, gathered in one body JesusBody. So that we can overcome the trials that are coming now.

God bless us all in Jesus Name, love u all in Christ. We are on our way too meeting Jesus.

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Dear John, in peace, think of everything eval we humans can do. But when we talk about the evil one, we know that he exalted himself and wanted to be God. Ezekiel 28:12-16 Why the Lord has given us satan as an image: Will probably come from the fact that we shall not believe that we are anything other than what we are, gems refined and taught by the Holy Spirit. Who dares and questions the Lord? Then put on your humble garment, as you want the Lord to teach you. Immerse yourself in the scriptures to be Responsive. It is God who is perfect, remember that we are, like ants Isaiah 66:1. But many of David's hymns say how energetic and happy the singer is to belong to the Lord. Example: Psalms 29 There is a lot of good warrior power in the hymns. Psalms 28. Praise, prayer, and thanksgiving are a great start.

It is a joy to belong to the Lord, He has already found a way out for us. So that All who believe in His Name will be saved.

1 Corintihans 10:13 The Word of God is the only weapon we have against the evil one. Jesus himself had to use the word against him in Matthew 4:1-11 My Bible is not hiding in a drawer and is not hidden away.

For me, this was a turning point. For i understood quite quickly that here it was spirit powers that would prevent / bind me into shame / bondage. Where i am, the Word of God is with, you do not know right when you meet a person who ponders something about the Lord :) It is also openly located on the kitchen table or in the living room. The Bible is my favorite, Number One, it's where we get to know the Lord, Each and every one of us Jesus believers must find out what is best for ourselves.

1 John 2:20-27 And do all things to the glory of God with a clear conscience. But never be ashamed, you have the Living God with you and He has all power in Heaven and on Earth! All we have to do is believe in Jesus Christ.

Then everything else comes into place as we go. Learn by heart scriptures that strike back. Romans 1:16-17 Ephesians 6:10-20 GB

Genesis 1:28, Genesis 9:11, Romans 1:17-32, 2Peter 3:9,

Hopefully these are helpful

Dear Doug, Grae and Gigi:

Ephesians 6:20

For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

Ephesians Chapter 5

9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

Romans 1:18

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Grace and peace from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

The only way I can slowly bring these two concepts together is God selected ( predestined) whole human race at creation to come unto Him and eventually to Christ, Romans 1:18-20. The human race has a bare knowledge of the existence of God based being created in His image. And later conformed to the image of His Son. Here is where " free will " comes into play, we can decide to believe and have faith in God and in Christ or not. God has built in to us the ability to know Him at creation but has also given us the " free will" to develop more knowledge or less knowledge of Him and Christ.

Grae:

Ephesians 5:9

(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Ephesians 5:10

Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

Romans 1:18

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Grace and peace from God the Father in Heaven and the Lord Jesus Christ.

My question is why does God allowed things to happen that are against him he is the power and the glory forever. I just don't understand people or homosexuals and God could stop it in a heartbeat are women being whores or men being whoremumgers this well I just don't understand I'm a dummy once I

My Dear Brother:

"So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen." Matthew 20:16 KJV

"Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:" Romans 1:6 KJV

Grace and peace from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Jeremiah 3:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Therefore the showers have been withholden, and there hath been no latter rain; and thou hadst a whore's forehead, thou refusedst to be ashamed.

2 Timothy 1:8 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;

Romans 1:16 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Isaiah 50:7 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded: therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be ashamed.

Zechariah 13:4 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision, when he hath prophesied; neither shall they wear a rough garment to deceive:

2 Samuel 10:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

When they told it unto David, he sent to meet them, because the men were greatly ashamed: and the king said, Tarry at Jericho until your beards be grown, and then return.

Psalms 109:28 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Let them curse, but bless thou: when they arise, let them be ashamed; but let thy servant rejoice.

Psalms 127:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.

2 Corinthians 10:8 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

For though I should boast somewhat more of our authority, which the Lord hath given us for edification, and not for your destruction, I should not be ashamed:

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Read these verses.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20 *

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God WITH US. [Jesus]

Beloved "Larry B." in peace, no one man can stand against the Lord so much. Or shall we say, for so long. It is probably not the Jews who are destroying Jerusalem. remember that the Gentiles have trodden there for over 2000 years. The Jews love Jerusalem. They defend Jerusalem, with prayer and fasting every day, for Jerusalem. In fact, i thought about it today. What are the Jews made of since they still year after year manage and stand in everything they do, without the Holy Spirit as we have. And think about what they have experienced over the years.

Think of the injustice they have experienced. Who do you think caused it? Look at all the hatred and destruction. That ignorant people distort the word of God. It's a shame to say it, but it's needed. There are even Christians who oppose the Jews! None of them have hurt me!

Repent, dear friend, see and love the Jews because they have given us the Bible, the Holy Scriptures, which is the Living Word! Romans 1:16-17 See also that those who do not see Jesus live under the law. There we are lucky you! It is the Jews who have arranged that matter for us, in a way. And because in the eyes of God, the Jews are the cornerstones like us.

But there is nothing we can do without Jesus. So here no one should boast because everything is by grace.

I love the Jews they are a special people who are beautiful creatures before God and all people on earth.

When we talk about the Jerusalem of the earth today. It is full of confessions of all faiths and all will glorify God in their own way. It is a song of praise that is heard from the Jerusalem of the earth from every language on earth. It's an experience and see it. The Jews are not to blame for any misery. They are defenders of God and His Word, just as i am. Rather remember that where the eye stone is, so is the enemy. And there are many of them in Jerusalem! Still, but one day everything will be put in order and that is the day we are waiting for. Jeremiah 29.11 Love u in Christ

Romans 8:1-8 "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."

Romans 1:18 "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;"

James 2:9-12 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

First, I'm going to direct you to John 3; Jesus is conversing with a Pharisee that believes Jesus is from God. Jesus explains the person of the Holy Spirit (the 3rd person of the Godhead Romans 1:20 (Father, Son, Holy Spirit)

Jesus is speaking of the Holy Spirit. You must be born again. You cannot perceive him, unless you receive Christ as Savior and Lord. Your heart is a throne. Has the Lord been received? Water Baptism is an outward declaration by you, of an inward change. If we do not read the Bible regularly, we are spiritually at a standstill.

I have a testimony of my Pastor in Tulsa. God sent me to that Church, with driving directions. I saw a blessed Church. The teachings were anointed. I learned like a sponge.

That Pastor went to Africa, saw voodoo; Ate weird food given to him, met witches, called himself an Apostle.

And then I saw him on tv, teaching that there is no hell. His Dad was a happy fun-loving man, his mother was "church mom" very loving too. I think my pastor was freaked over what he perceived was "sin in the house." He judged "holiness" family that had occasional beer or cig.

All I know is that people will walk out on the Grace of God, for love. My Pastor lost his anointing; Oral Roberts and others rebuked him, he lost his house. It was bad.

Pastor is on YouTube teaching various subjects which are pure heresy. No Bible Truth. He became what the rest of Romans 1, teaches on; starting at verse 20-32.

We receive Jesus as Savior and Lord of our lives. His Love and sometimes, correction is not grevious. Jesus is Judge, so don't do any of that. It is Jesus who baptizes us after salvation. He gives to us, the Holy Spirit to be our Teacher of scripture. The Holy Spirit is precious to Jesus. Don't walk away and act like it means nothing. It should hurt us to even think of it. If we feel nothing, we left Jesus long before it actually happened.

Mishael