Matthew Chapter 1 Discussion Page 7

Earl with all due respect we will never be equal with God, we have his spirit now which is perfect but we still have corrupt bodies, we will not be made perfect until we are resurrected from then this mortal will put on immortality if that's what you are saying okee dokee. If not that's okay its your privilege. God Bless

Sister Dianne:

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be IN YOU, which was ALSO IN Christ Jesus:

Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be EQUAL with God.

Romans 8:7 But the carnal mind is enmity against God .....

1 Corinthians 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that we may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Sister dianne, nothing is out of context. i quoted 1 timothy 5:16 and 1 corinthians 15:38. that is the resurrected body.

1 timothy 6:16 who (christ) only hath immortality (life with no end).....

1 corinthians 15:38 but god giveth it (the elect) a body.....and to every (elect) his (christ) own body.

you are the body of christ.

he is the resurrection.

Saints equal with God?

I am curious to know where you encountered this concept.

To be equal with God we must first judge God's value and merit.



One quick response is that the Jews sought to stone Jesus when they perceived His claim of equality with God, as in John 5:18.

Also look at

I John 3:20 - God is greater than our hearts

Psalm 61:2 - God is higher than us

Psalm 89:27 - God will make Christ higher than the kings of the Earth

Ecclesiastes 5:8 - God is higher than the highest



If you will know them by their fruits, let's look to our ways;

Isaiah 55:9 - God's ways are infinitely higher than ours

Job 15:6 - We are unclean

Isaiah 64:6 - NOTHING we do could measure up to God's righteousness

That is a very big and significant thing to say, to claim anyone as an equal with God.

As a comparison, there is one very heretical sect which believes we will judge God.

Clearly, just based upon the references I have listed, their claim is not the least bit credible.

Such statements cannot stand of their own merit nor of that of their speaker.

Equality with God or standing in judgment of God would be enormous claims requiring substance to back them up.

Big claims are either big truths or big falsehoods. Not everyone can determine the difference.

You may or may not be a great theologian or an academic authority.

Even such titles wouldn't be enough for a common joe like me.

Being that this is a Biblical site, answers of that magnitude carry credibility only when they are backed by Scriptural reference.

Otherwise;

If I wanted to debate you, it would be difficult because I don't see here where your basis is or how to clarify a dissent.

If I wanted to agree with you, well, again, your basis is not shown, so I would be at some degree of loss in composing a reply.

On any subject, but especially such a profound claim, let authority be Sola Scriptura and let Scripture interpret Scripture.

Earl we are going to judge the world at the end with Christ in a resurrected body, not our current bodies, with all due respect there's a few things pulled out of context of usage. That being said it's your privilege to believe what you choose. God Bless

Vernard, when Christ (the SPIRIT) has COMPLETED his WORK in us we will be equal to God (SPIRIT). NOT being God the Father or Christ the Lord; but equal in all that they are. The SAME AND EQUAL in love, mercy, truth, wisdom, understanding, judgement; everything they are, we WILL BE.

The Saints are going to JUDGE the world with Christ; how can they judge righteous judgements without being EXACTLY like Christ in all attributes. We will be gods in respect to being EQUAL in all ways; But not Being God the Father or Christ the Lord.

1 Corinthians 15:38 But God GIVETH it (the SEED) a body as it hath pleased him, and to every SEED his (CHRIST) own body.

1 Timothy 6:16 Who ONLY hath immortality (LIFE without end), Dwelling in the light which not man can approach unto (without HIM), whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Hi Vernard The word saint in the church epistles is the word hagios which means holy seperate or set apart, it applies to primarily to people who God set apart spiritually, in all the church epistles in the first few verses you will notice called to be saints or to the saints it applies to us who God has separated from the darkness of this world Believing Romans 10:9+10 born again. In regards to equal with God have no idea where that's coming from. God Bless

Hello, who told you there was such a thing and did you assume that was true?

i want to know more about saints equal with God

......amen.....

We hereby understand that Joseph was the adopted Father of Jesus in the same manner as we are being adopted by God the Father, through Jesus Christ.

By revelation we see Mary, a living word in the realm of the Spirit was impregnated by the Word of Life, to bring forth the Son of Man, without sin. John 1:14: And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory; the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

We also understand that in the realm of the Spirit that, He the Son of Man, who was born of the Word of God was also God the Word. John 1:1: In the beginning The Word, and The Word with God and The Word God.

So by revelation we also understand, that spiritual birth of us, the sons of sinful men by the Lord Christ Jesus is similar to the role of Mary. When we accepted Jesus the Son of Man, He being God the Word was impregnated with us, and when we received Christ the Son of God, He being God the Spirit is or the Holy Spirit delivered us from the womb to become the Sons of God the Father of Eternal Life.

In order for us to become a Child of God the Lord Christ Jesus must give birth to us, by the Word and Spirit. John 3: 1 - 8.

Mary a living soul or word had to be impregnated by the Word in order to bring forth the vessel, the Son of Man, God the Word of Life.

Love The Comment............

Amen.......

I love this ( matthew 1-18)

Luke 2:8-20

The night Jesus was born there were awesome displays of angels speaking to the shepherds tending their flocks in the area. They were given messages to take to Joseph and Mary.

The Archangel, Gabriel (the messenger) gave information to Mary and Joseph, directly and indirectly before and after. The message to flee into Egypt.

This should comfort us, that even tho we may not see them, angels do perform tasks as the Lord delegates on our behalf. At no time should we praise angels. They are created to serve God.

In Matthew 1:18-25, What Did The Angels Do When Jesuss Birth, Marys Deliver?

Jesse And Ricard, You Guys Are Very helpful God Bless Your Families And Friends And Selfs

Amen, lacey praise the lord

I Agree With Chris Which Chapter And Verse Denise?

I Got You, Grace :)

Prayers For You, Grace!

-Taylor Marcoellis

I am praying for you friend in Jesus' Name

I need prayer for me

I love reading the bible it is more under standable for me to read it from my phone I under sand it more but I do need a new Bible with big print

Denise, could you provide a reference for this? Which book of Samuel, chapter & verse?

What is an emperor used in the book of Samuel?

When we come to Christ we begin to see things from a different perspective. we begin to look at ourselves through the eyes of God. He has created us from the very beginning. Many will go trough life without knowing Him or what he has in store for those that love him.

I feel like i have a lot in common with Jesus. A lot of similarities. Does the Bible ever mention about Jesus having any romantic relationship? Or even a desire to have a romantic relationship? I've always felt different. I've never desired any romantic relationship. But I've always loved to take care of animals. Jesus loves to take care of us. I've had jobs working with animals. Then i started to see the Bible verse : Jeremiah 29:11. I thought that was god 's way of telling me that his plan for my life was to have a lifelong career working with animals. But those jobs did not last as long as I'd hoped. It felt like a peice of myself was missing. Then during this corona virus i started to write in my journal about my personal experiences. Through the process, i realized that i was answering a lot of questions I've had about myself all my life. Finally i understood me & i realized that maybe this was god's plan for me all along. His plan was for me to seek out personal information about myself. It reminds me of another Bible verse : Matthew 7:7. And that's exactly what is been doing. I was seeking out information to understand what makes me different. I was asking personal questions about myself because I'd rather understand, instead of doubt & the door was opened wide for me to see the answers to those questions. My prayer is that my story can help anyone else who feels different. Its OK to be different no matter what & it's healthy to accept yourself!

Gary,

It can be called either New Testament or New Covenant. I call it the New Testament but it would not be wrong for me to call it the New Covenant. There are several places in the "NT" where we see the word covenant and testament. Both those words in the Greek text are the words DIATHEKE, and they can be translated into English as either testament or covenant. They both mean the same thing, so it would not be wrong to call it either way!

Hello Gary,

I did a little search for you. As I cannot say when the word "covenant" was replaced with "testament" in the Holy Bible. To begin they mean the same thing. Covenant is still used in the OT over 250 times. Testament and covenant are used in the NT for the same Greek word they are translated from.

The word covenant seems to have it's origin in old French. The word testament seems to have it's root from Latin. Making their way to English.

Both meaning the same thing as a "disposition,pledge, pact, or treaty".

Hope that helps. God Bless.

Hi Gary, I'm not aware of any change. Can you be more specific and list why you think there was a change of something somewhere by someone?