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Revelation Chapter 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days.

(I believe the woman is the church, the bride of Christ and 1,260 days is not a mere few months)

7 And there WAS WAR IN HEAVEN (past tense) was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

circle of the earth, circle of the earth, circle of the earth.

a pancake?

That is really stretching it. No one Loves Jesus more than I; I even have the cross on the wallpaper of my phone. I am also a student of the Bible, but it is what it is. Don't you realize the Jesus is the son of God? Why do you think he is called as being of the family of God? Half of his life is do to the Holy Spirit, which is of God the Creator.

God bless and take care.

Hallelujah, glory to God; he can do anything but fail. David knew who to trust, Moses knew who to trust,and all of God prophet's knew that when you give God your heart, their is no other help I know that can do exceedingly and beyond of what I can ask for or think of. Glory to God

Does it say a spinning ball hurtling through space?? No it doesn't.

God's will, to see good for the days i've seen evil, God to bless me and to keep me from evil so that there might be no pain,God to establish my work, Uplifting, Focus, Strength, protection, financial provision, grace, to walk in love, agreement with my prayers, lost fam and frs plus spouse n her fam to be k

Connie, thank you I read, reread and will reread Ephesians 3:20-21, again everyday. I love how you said, "...journey of trust, faith, hope and love." May God Also Richly Bless You. :). . June 19, 2020

Alan, from the reading of Scripture, I would say that the early Church & the present Bible believing Church viewed Christ's salvation, its operation & its application in the very same way. However, there were those in that early Church, Gnostics included, that wanted to corrupt its meaning, to which Paul was pained to address that important issue. And specifically, some would have the keeping of the Law, circumcision & traditions as part & parcel of this new faith. Galatians chapter 2 gives a clear demonstration of Peter's hypocrisy in this matter, to which Paul had to take him 'over the coals', as what Peter was requiring of the Gentiles was in direct conflict with the meaning of the Gospel of Salvation, i.e. that the Cross has set us free from the bindings & consequences of the Law. If then, from your question, "the early Church did not view salvation as the western Church does" is your belief, then if you could provide some evidence of this please?

As well, I did not understand your other question: "where did the doctrine of original sin come from?" If it's not from the Bible ( Rom 5:12-21; 1 Cor 15:21,22), then I don't know from where else.

Truth, when Satan is kicked out of heaven he comes to deceive the whole world as Revelation 12:7,8,9 tells us and he stands in Jerusalem claiming he is God and with the power he has the world will be deceived. Satan returns as a false messiah and he doesn't care about killing you he wants worshippers. Don't go and don't follow Satan. Wait for the true Christ store food for 3 months and pay your bills up when you see the events begin because he is going to have a one world system and you don't want to follow him if you love Jesus. The time was shorten for the elect sake to 5 months as the book of Revelation tells us.

Jesus is like an adopted son of Joseph. I got this from the Jewish Virtual Library about adoption, "Once a child has been adopted, the adoptee must be treated as if it were biologically the adopter's own. The adoptee is required to honor and respect his/her parents in accordance with the laws of the Torah."

As to his earthly identity, it follows that Jesus is indeed Joseph's son and belonging to the tribe of Judah in the lineage of David.

Mishael, thank you very much for all your advice. I will go buy those products AND stand on Psalm 31. I'll continue through out the day saying what you sent me. With a loud voice. I will probably call a dermatologist pretty soon. You are a blessing to me. Thank you, thank you and thank you May God Bless You today and every day. :) . June 19, 2020

Genesis 1:7 KJV

(7) And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

God divided the waters (people) which were under the firmament (the unbelievers) from the waters (people) which were above the firmament (the believers).

Jesus said He was from above while those who did not believe Him were from beneath.

John 8:23-24 KJV

(23) And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

(24) I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

As God divided the waters, we also must not be unequally yoked together (those who are above with those from under the firmament) with the unbelievers of the Word of Truth that we hear spoken from above. The firmament or expanse is the opening up of our ears to the hearing of the knowledge of God spoken from Heaven. Belief/faith comes from hearing and hearing from the Word of God.

2 Corinthians 6:14-15 KJV

(14) Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

(15) And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

The waters were divided as God calls us to come out from among the unbelievers of the Word of Truth and be separate from them. What communion does light have with those of are of the darkness?

2 Corinthians 6:17-18 KJV

(17) Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

(18) And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Ed - I know we can not "lose" our salvation like you lose your car keys or a wallet.

However can we throw away our salvation?

Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

(Seems our names can be BLOTTED out of the book of life)

Exodus Chapter 32:31 And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold.

32 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written.

33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.

Jesus in Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. (Why would Jesus say we must endure to the end?)

Jesus in Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Revelation Chapter 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive [his] mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

I do not care what sinners prayer anyone says, if they take the mark I believe their are doomed.

Sadly Millions of Church goers do not believe they will ever have to make this choice to refuse it.

Is it true, the early church did not view salvation as the western church does. If that is correct how can we say today faith alone(if that was never heard of in 20AD)

Also, where did the doctrine of original sin come from?

Many thanks.

John L This might help

Revelation Chapter 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty [and] two months.

3 And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. (1,260 days)

Revelation Chapter 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months. (42 Months)

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

We should all know the good things the Lord says about Jerusalem. However

Jerusalem: What the Bible alone says... Part 1

Isaiah 3:8 - For Jerusalem is ruined, and Judah is fallen: because their tongue and their doings are against the LORD, to provoke the eyes of his glory.

Micah 3:10 - They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity.

Jeremiah 4:14 - O Jerusalem, wash thine heart from wickedness, that thou mayest be saved. How long shall thy vain thoughts lodge within thee?

Jer 8:5 - Why then is this people of Jerusalem slidden back by a perpetual backsliding? they hold fast deceit, they refuse to return.

Jer 9:11 - And I will make Jerusalem heaps, and a den of dragons; and I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant.

Jer 13:27 - I have seen thine adulteries, and thy neighings, the lewdness of thy whoredom, and thine abominations on the hills in the fields. Woe unto thee, O Jerusalem! wilt thou not be made clean? when shall it once be?

Jer 19:3 - And say, Hear ye the word of the LORD, O kings of Judah, and inhabitants of Jerusalem; Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, the which whosoever heareth, his ears shall tingle.

Jer 23:14 - I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.

Jer 44:9 - Have ye forgotten the wickedness of your fathers, and the wickedness of the kings of Judah, and the wickedness of their wives, and your own wickedness, and the wickedness of your wives, which they have committed in the land of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem?

Jerusalem Part 2

Lamentations 1:8 - Jerusalem hath grievously sinned; therefore she is removed: all that honoured her despise her, because they have seen her nakedness: yea, she sigheth, and turneth backward.

Ezekiel 16:2 - Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,

Malachi 2:11 - Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the LORD which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god.

Revelation 11:8 - And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. (end time Jerusalem)

Jesus, my LORD, was crucified in Jerusalem, which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt.

Matthew 23:37 - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

In my Church we are taught that you can lose your salvation, but others say you can't. What is your opinion? The way that reads it seems my Church is correct.

Bill sometimes those words meaning Lord or King is associated with satanism.

Baal meant Lord and was so associated with satanism the Lord said not to call him that anymore.

Judges 2:13 And they forsook the LORD, and served Baal and Ashtaroth.

Judges 8:33 And it came to pass, as soon as Gideon was dead, that the children of Israel turned again, and went a whoring after Baalim, and made Baalberith their god.

Jeremiah 19:5 They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind: (CHILD SACRIFICES)

Hosea 2:16 And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.

1 Kings 11:5 For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites.

2 Kings 23:13 And the high places that were before Jerusalem, which were on the right hand of the mount of corruption, which Solomon the king of Israel had builded for Ashtoreth the abomination of the Zidonians, and for Chemosh the abomination of the Moabites, and for Milcom the abomination of the children of Ammon, did the king defile.

What is this "original Hebrew" stuff? Do you want to call the God of Heaven a name associated with Devils?

"Wise men lay up knowledge, but the mouth of the foolish is near destruction". Always pray for wisdom, knowledge and understanding from God in every aspect of our lives including and most importantly our words so we won't be like the foolish ones who use their mouth to profess their own ruins and destruction.

First of all, this isn't a place to discuss personal things; however, I remember what needing help is like and not knowing where to turn. Any sexual relations outside of marriage is sin. Period. If you feel you need to help your ex there are plenty of ways besides giving him a place to lay his abusive head. After we accept Christ and are saved, God expects us to change... move forward and not look back. You already know right from wrong. Do it.

Have you seen a dermatologist yet? You need to. You could be allergic to some of the products you've used.

Try using very Mild products like baby shampoo and baby cream rinse.

If the hair is long or thin & brittle, keep it shorter till hair health is better. Google a Diet that supports a healthier scalp. Take a daily multivitamin for you. Boost your immune response.

Apple Cider vinegar (50/50 with water) fattens the hair. Leave it on for 30 minutes and rinse it out.

I'm not a doctor; so see a dermatologist soon. All this worry is not good.

There are Many verses you can be praying over your body, Every Day. Our prayers are straight out of a Bible. Move your true dependence on God, through the BLOOD of His beloved Son: Jesus. When your stress level soars, say out loud:

"I plead the Blood of Jesus from the top of my head, unto the soles of my feet." ...Satan has no power over me anymore. My life is hid in Jesus Christ of Nazareth, now!

Put a bookmark in PSALM 31. Turn your dependency to the Word of God. Pray it; Live it. As often as you need to.

REVELATIONS QUESTIONS???

I am unable to fit all Tribulation events (Seals, Trumpets, and Vials) into a 7 year time period.

A 7 year time period is not given in the Book of Revelations concerning the Tribulation.

The Book of Daniel refers to this time period as the final "seven" of the "seventy weeks" ( Daniel 9:24). That final 7 has been going on for over 2000 years.

In the "midst of the week" does refer to the middle of a set of SEVEN years when the sacrifice and the oblation will cease, and this refers to the 7 Vials of Revelations 16:1-18:24 which are poured out at the END.

In addition, Jesus said that the time of the "Great Tribulation" would be "shortened" ( Matthew 24:22). We find that this particular time (after the 5th Trumpet and the 1st Woe) is shortened to "five months" (Revelations 9:5). Where does this factor in?

The period of time covering "Jacob's trouble" ( Jeremiah 30:7) is 20 years; It could be seen as 13 years if the first 7 are not counted; because they seemed "but as a few days" ( Genesis 29:20). Could this be a more plausible time period for all events to take place?

Patricia, I am praying with and for you asking God to restore you hair quickly and better than before. My devotion this morning was in Ephesians 3:20-21 "Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us, to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus." He is able, we are trusting in God's power and His love! I will also pray that our understanding of quickly be comprehended with Jesus' timeframe. Many God's blessings to you on this journey of trust, faith, hope and love!

Yea, I'm like you. I'm not really sure how many bibles I have. They are all KJV bibles except for one Living Bible. That one just collects dust on a bookshelf. I'm not too sure why I even still have it. I guess out of sight, out of mind. I can't give it away because if it's something I won't read, I wouldn't want anyone else to read it either. I'd throw it in the trash but I'm afraid the guy at the dump would get a hold of it.

I do sometimes look at other bibles to make comparisons. I have four different bible software programs on my computer that have tons of different bibles and other books. There is a free online program you can download from e-Sword. That is one of the programs I have. It gives you several bibles, and many other books that I find helpful.

I have heard good things about the NKJV but have not read from that one. Chris may have, I don't know, but I do trust his recommendations.

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lord please bless my descendants with wealth.lord please let me make it to heaven at last and let my descendants serve you and do your will.lord please keep me alive.

Please pray with me that God brings peace and strength to the families of Shaun, who lost her grandmother, who was 101 years old and Christian, who lost her 18-year-old daughter. Also, all those who are who need strength.

Morning my Brothers and Sisters in Christ. This Word is in due season in my life right now. Please make sure your steps are lead by God. Wait if you please, because the consequences can be devastating. I am living that reality right now. Asking God to forgive and to reconcile me in his righteousness. Pray my strength in the Lord and trust the process WHILE GOD WORK IT OUT. Harris

To this concerns; i want to share how i know and believe speaking into existence, well for Mothers day, my o me a beautiful rose bush, but it died after a few days, but for some reason i kept it outside on balcony, 1 day i decided to water and speak life into it, so i came home from work after the 3rd day, and 1 flower had blossomed onto the bush, i was so amazed by this, but i for some reason had the faith to believe this word i spoke to the plant would come to life, and it did. Glory be to God.