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God did. If you read through the Geneologies from the Old Testament through to Jesus's birth in the New Testament:

You will see that through Mary's and Joseph's Geneology, that the bloodline of Jesus Christ was carefully recorded in the pages of the Bible.

Before Genesis, and the marriage of Adam to Eve, the bloodlines that would bring Jesus forward to Bethlehem; was prophesied and spoken many times.

You can Google CHARTS to view with Jesus. There's scads of charts so be sure it matches what is recorded in the King James Bible.

Mishael

We know that God the father had Jesus the son to redeem the lost.

As John 3:16 points out.

For God so loved the world he have his only begotten son. That who shall believe in him shall not parish but have external life.

Jesus came to fulfill the law. Therefore , we are saved by grace.

how do we know the death of Christ was Planned and who planned it

how do we know the death of Christ was Planned and who planned

There is nothing jesus can't do!!!

Thanks Lidia for that insight. I agree, even as Jesus, before releasing His Spirit, gave John that charge to care for His Mother ( John 19:25-27), and showed a special affection for John & may even have declared that to him during their times together.

We see the beauty & richness of his Gospel coming through as a result of that intimacy & impartation of Divine Truths John enjoyed & received.

Thanks Chris for that insight. That really answered my question.I should have known it was John I guess I had a brain freeze.

I have come to realize that "using the phrase whom Jesus loved" was indicating to us that John being the youngest, Jesus knew John's heart; knowing that He could rely on John to take care of His mother after His crucifixion's.

Hi Howard. I believe that the other disciple was John himself. We read in John 20:2 "Then she (Mary Magdalene) runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them...".

John 13:23: "Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved."

John 21:20: "Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?"

So you can see the common phrase in each of these verses: "whom Jesus loved". John often referred to himself as the disciple whom Jesus loved. Why he did this, I'm unsure. Though not wanting to give any focus or attention to himself, rather to the Lord & the other brethren, could be a valid reason.

In John at the tomb.it says Peter and another disciple but does not name him. I was wondering who this in named disciple might be.

what was the sin of the Lame man at the Pool of Bethesda

Hi Sacha,

I am sorry to hear about the deaths in your family going on. As it is a part of life and I so understand wanting others you care about to be saved, and with the Lord, though they have their own beliefs.

I just as you, and I'm sure all others in Christ, yearn for the day that we will be with the Lord in glory where He is in His Kingdom.

Isaac,

This will be my last post to you as I did not wish to make you angry or drive you away. You have just as much right to post here as I do. As I stated I did not want you to take my post harshly as it seems you did. I am sorry you took it that way.

You stating "you guys" but please only keep this between you and me. Maybe you are perceiving me and Carleton as "you guys" because we both asked you a similar question?

Like I stated truthfully. I am not one to sharpen your iron on this topic of Genesis. I stated where my focus is.

Please feel free to keep posting and maybe someone else can help you.

Again I apologize.

God Bless.

Only one reason Issac, as mentioned before, the discussion is time consuming, so the value for me must start at the Cross. I remain interested in your thoughts in Genesis 1 and 2, if I believe that finally the goal is the increase of our faith and relationship at the Cross. I am sure that no one means offense otherwise. I am sorry for my part in your offense.

Brother Carleton,

Thank you very much for your reply. I very much enjoyed reading of the things about the vision of another brother about a year ago. That is also amazing how your wife came home today with that book and the title is close to what I stated in that "the Lord is closer than we may think". The Lord is so perfect!

I usually don't post things about my personal experiences with the Lord. Though today as I was getting a bit emotional while praying I heard that He wanted me to share that with you all.

As none of us know exactly what is to happen and when. We must make sure we are ready for the Lord to come at any time. As we are taught in Matthew 24:42-44. I know a lot of people are waiting for a "rapture" which may happen and of coarse is the best thing for us with the Lord. Though I really don't see it being that easy for us.

Like said no matter what happens have no fear. We must endure till the end no matter what. Glory and honor to our Father in Heaven through Jesus Christ our Lord.

God Bless you my brother.

What does this have to do with Jesus? 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

I see I pick the wrong place for this discussion. Because you guys see you might be wrong about this, you change the premise to: What does this have to do with Jesus? So now it's no longer a iron sharpens iron discussion. Sorry I wasted your time and mine.

Admin, you can block me now. I do not wish to get anymore e-mails on this.

Thanks so much for your post Richard in Christ ,i so want Jesus to return very soon ,a lot of my older relatives are dying and im sad because i wanted them to be alive when Christ returns as i believe they would have had one last chance to accept him and his Father ,The Holy One of Israel ,sadly i lost an uncle very recently ,he was an atheist ,i dont want any more people i love who are atheists to die ! Its not up to me i know and i know God is perfectly righteous and always merciful ,i just want Jesus to come back very soon ,so many people are leading desperately miserable lives and Christ is their only chance of any peace and happiness , even so Lord come back soon ! Please ! When it is Gods will ,Amen .

Dear Richard in Christ a brother by faith, I just re-listened to a dream told by a brother on what's app of a Angel visiting him a year ago January where he was shown by the Angel a clear view across the sea underneath and that a dread was coming this way but not to fear. The Angel said that the this was not the end but the end would be soon. The Angel was very comforting to the brother as they moved together in the vision. The brother described the Angel as pure. He felt like this vision was for himself and all he could share with to prepare our hearts and lives for the end. Just now my wife came home with a book written by an old preacher in 1985 that has been re-printed. It is called "Today may be later than we think."

My vision in the early 90's was the Lamb simply in a cloud eating of the cloud's pasture in all humility.

God bless our meditations.

My brothers and sisters,

I will try to keep this short. I am writing this because our Father said He would like if I did. As I was praying this morning to the Lord, what I felt He wanted me to tell you was this. That our Lord is in the clouds already and is closer than we may think.

I cannot discern this in that He could have always been in the clouds with us or that He is closer than He has been for a long time.

As of coarse we who are with the Lord have been Blessed to receive of His Holy Spirit and Christ resides in us as dear children of our Father. He knows each and every single one of us.

The world we live in I believe is in much worse a state than we think. As many, many, things are being done behind the scenes. Deception is huge and very big things are happening very rapidly that are changing the world. More than we know.

The most important message to you all from this post is to draw close to the Lord. No matter what happens in this world keep your faith and trust fully in the Lord. He cherishes very much those who draw close to Him. We have nothing to fear. As Jesus Christ said "fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul".

God Bless you my brothers and sisters.

Isaac,

It seems you are putting a lot of time trying to explain things that happened thousands of years ago and you nor anyone else knows the exact answer.

I know there are many different theories of what really happened in the garden of Eden, other creations, and things that you are bringing up.

Like someone else stated. What does this have to do with our Lord Jesus Christ and living for the Will of our Father in Heaven? I believe we should focus more on our lives in how we can draw closer to the Lord in love. Stay focused on the Word and live by it. Do what makes God happy and you will receive Blessings from Him.

I'm really not that interested in trying to discern how this, or that, happened or why. One day when we are with the Lord if you have any questions they will be answered in truth.

Please don't take my post harshly. Though the details of what really happened thousands of years ago, about creation, does not interest me much at all. I very much enjoy seeing actual remains of things like Noah's ark, the remains of Sodom and Gomorrah, artifacts of the Red Sea crossing etc.

I do my best to focus on the Lord and my relationship with Him and our Father in Heaven. Amen.

God Bless.

Isaac, I am not a believer of the gap theory or a world before this one and it was wiped out and God started over. I believe our world started as scripture says. First the Gentiles is not a race of people and has nothing to do with creation. When we read the word Gentile, the meaning non-Israelite or non-Jew that has been taught is what we understand. The term is used by English translators for the Hebrew (goy) and (nokhri) in the Hebrew and the Greek word (thn) in the New Testament. The term "gentiles" is derived from Latin word gentilis, which means one who is not a Roman citizen. It was used for contextual translation, and not an original Hebrew or Greek word from the Bible.

The original words goy and ethnos refer to "peoples" or "nations" and are applied to both Israelites and non-Israelites in the Bible. The word Gentile has taken on a different meaning and it sometimes complicates the understanding, same as the word Jew. The main thing, when we see the word Gentile it does not automatically mean non-Jew as it stands for today, and now, anyone of Judaism is a Jew which also is not reliable. In most cases, it means nations, even the nation of Israel. If you read the word Gentile it is saying people or nation singular or plural.

Adam was not Jewish, Abraham, was not Jewish, the word Jew started in Babylon captivity as an abbreviated slang term for Judahite, a resident of the southern kingdom of Judah. Adam was the start of the genealogy to Jesus. The tree of life was in the garden of Eden, when they sinned, they were taken out of the garden and Cherubims, and a flaming sword barded the way back in so they would not eat of it and live forever. Scripture does not say they lost their immortality it says the tree was barred from them so they would not have immortality.

God bless, Ron

Dear Isaac, Jumping ahead a little, what is your point regarding the restoration of man by faith and repentance in Jesus Christ? For me, all answers will be found in Him.

I only said 8th day when it was the first day if the new week. Many think that Genesis 2 is just a recount, in more detail, of Genesis 1. But what if it's not, and we have been translated it wrong the whole time?

God cast Adam and Eve out of the garden when they sinned. Just like Lucifer was cast out of Heaven when he sinned. Why? Because sin cannot exist when eternity exists unless you are in Hell. But, why were not the animals God Formed also removed from the garden? And why was a angel placed at the entrance to the garden, and why did not Adam and Eve has access to the rest of the earth before sin? Only after sin?

Why did God only walk with Adam and Eve in the Garden but not outside it?

So why repeat what happened in Genesis 1 in Genesis 2 if the creation was the same as Genesis 1? Unless it was a separate creation?

Question Ron: If the gentiles were of the same creation, then why did the gentiles have to be included into the tree of life with the Jewish peoples? They should have already been part of that.

Gap theory is easy to disprove once you understand what Form actually means.

God created 3 different ways:

1) Spoken word creation aka speaking something from nothing.

2) Bring forth creation aka commanding what has already been created to bring forth more life.

3) Formed creation aka Man was formed by the hand of God.

So when the Bible says: The earth was without form, it's speaking of what God would Form (man) with His bare hands. And that until Man was Formed, the creation of the earth was void aka empty. So God was not relaying the physical condition of the earth. But the reason the earth was being created aka for man to live upon. Besides, why would God create anything without physical form?

Old earth creation does not have a timeline of it's own. it uses the evolution timeline which means it's a branch off of the evolution idea. Proof? Remove the evolution timeline, and using the Bible only, come up with a timeline that's would be considered Biblical only. It cannot be done.

Moses was the most educated writer of the Bible. He was to be Pharaoh, so he had a Pharaoh's education. In fact his education in math exceeded all the other writers of the Bible as he illustrated when he wrote this.

Genesis 24:60 KJV

And they blessed Rebekah, and said unto her, Thou art our sister, be thou the mother of thousands of millions, and let thy seed possess the gate of those which hate them.

He showed not only could he express 1 million, but also 1 billion. What is 1,000 times 1 million? It's 1 billion. So if millions and billions of years were needed to be expressed during creation, it would have been. But that not what it said. Instead the 4 parts of a 24 hour day was expressed. And even on day 4 when solar time keeping was created, the expression of a 24 hour day stayed the same. Which means time stayed the same from 24 hour day to 24 hour day.

The event that took out the dinosaurs was the Worldwide flood. A flood has a pecking order of how it would lay out the fossils. The pecking order is:

1) Because aquatic life already live in the water, they would not be drowning during the flood, right? So they would get buried in the sediments in the order they lived top to bottom. That order is:

a) Bottom dwellers first.

b) Mid dwellers second.

c) Top dwellers last.

And that's the order we see in the Bottom half of the fossil record. Google the fossil record image and see for yourself.

2) Because aquatic life and land life did not live together, there should be a visible separation point in the fossil record. And there is, right in the middle. Where the aquatic life fades and land life appears and continues. The problem with aquatic life fading and land life increasing is that there is 230,000 known aquatic life species. And what's left in the last time era is what's available to evolve in the next time era. The problem is that in the time era before what is now, there were hardly any aquatic life to speak of. Almost nothing to 230,000 species?

3) But there is not enough water on the earth to flood it to the highest mountain. Yes their is. Recently they found that the upper mantle of the earth contains water. oceans worth of water. Go to youtube and search: Oceans inside the earth. They also found that water has a 4th type of existence, instead of just 3 (solid liquid gas). And that forth phase of existence only exists in the upper mantle. I'd leave links but that's not allowed.

4) And because the earth does not have a solid core, that much water being on the surface would make the earth shrink making the pangea a real event before the flood.

5) The earth was flooded twice? Dry land did not appear until day 3 in creation: Genesis 1:And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

1) Many people think that in order for eternity to be eternal. time cannot exist.

Revelation 8:1

King James Version

8 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

You cannot measure time where time does not exist. What makes eternity eternal is that the process of aging no longer exists. Time passes, aging does not increase.

2) What about 2 Peter 3:8?

2 Peter 3:8

King James Version

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

The key phrase here is with the Lord. This is a time comparison between how time passes here, and how time passes in Heaven. If you turn this into a equation aka fraction. It would look like this: 1 day/1 thousand years. To make this easier to understand we need to make this a year to year comparison. So to make a day one year we would have to times it times 365. To keep the value of the fraction we also must times 1,000 years times 365. And this is what we get: 1 year/365.000 years. So when 1 years passes here, 365,000 years pass in Heaven.

What does that mean? Heaven is 365,000 times faster than we are. What does this answer?

a) Why we cannot see God or the angels. Because how do you see something 365,000 times faster then you?

b) How God can know all see all. At that speed He can see everything.

c) How the angels can be there in the nick of time to save you. etc...

3) So why is it that some things date old and young? God aged things 2 different ways:

a) By the passage of time.

b) By His word aka no passage of time required.

2 Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old,

So in other words, God can speak age into His creation when He creates it. All life was created with age already added as to the reason they were told to go forth and multiply.... Running out of room, so I address dinosaurs next reply.

I don't think we live in a choice society anymore. It takes extreme love and sacrifice to raise children these days. I admire your commitment very much.

I know it is not possible for everyone but we drive 180 miles a day, five days a week so that our son can go to a self-funded Christian school (fortunately for our son he only has to travel half the weekly distance). We have also home schooled in the past with all three children.

Basically the Bible teaches us to love God, and HATE sin.

There is no fuzziness in what the Bible teaches in Romans 1, Leviticus 20:13, Deuteronomy 22:22

My kid came home from school upset because he had to take a test the next day: and agree that man evolved from apes. He knew it was blasphemy because I quizzed him. I told him that he had MY PERMISSION and SUPPORT to FLUNK THAT TEST!! We would make extra credits some other way.

If we don't agree with what public education is teaching our kids: instead of warming a church pew, teach in children's church what the truth is.

What did King David do as a young shepherd boy when he heard his God being cursed by the Philistines? He went down to the battlefield and took off Goliaths head!!

If a kid flunks a test find out how much it reduces the grade point average for the course.

Our children need to know they do not have to conform to something they do not believe in, MORALLY. Do your kids know what morals are? They aren't being taught that in school. Colleges beat in your brains with godless information till you cave in and say what they want on a test. Choose a Christian College!

In 1962, the Lords Prayer, the Ten Commandments and the Pledge of Allegiance to our National Flag was removed from schools. That was bad... but now they are forcing our kids to be gay, so they can belong. Even 6 year old kids who don't even know what sexual acts are. Do they know what sexual diseases are? That they are itchy, ooze, and cause irreparable harm to the body, so they can't have children later?

It takes guts to stand up for your kids and say NO to the gay education reformers. You'd fight back if someone tried to muscle you out of a parking place.

Teach your children & grandchildren about God. One day we will give an account to Gods Face, what we personally did about His Word - the Bible! There's no reward for cowardice or APATHY!

Speak up before it's TOO LATE.

Mishael