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  • PROPHECY - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Amen, "Grae":

    The Holy Spirit has given you great insight to his word.

    Our knowledge of God never ceases to grow as we spend time in his word.

    1 Corinthians 2:9 ...eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither hath entered into the heart of man, the things God hath prepare for them that love him.

    Job 38:7 When the MORNING STARS .....sang together ....

    Revelation 22:16 ...I am .....the bright and MORNING STAR .....

    Revelation 2:28 and I will give him the MORNING STAR ....

    Psalms 82: ....ye are gods, the children of the most high .....

    John 17:22 And the glory which thou hast given me, I have given them, that they may be one, as we are one.

    God Bless YOU, his body!
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Bro Adam,

    Jesus acknowledges that his Father is his God, and Jesus also claims that he is God - like his Father.

    Some see a contradiction in these two truths, and so they usually deny one, or the other of them. It has always been a challenge for some to understand this relationship of the Godhead/Trinity in human terms.

    In the Revelation of Jesus Christ, Jesus tells Apostle John in "no uncertain terms" that he is God.

    Revelation 1:8

    "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."

    Revelation 1:11

    "Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea."

    Revelation 1:17

    "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:"

    Revelation 1:18

    "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

    Revelation 22:13

    "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."

    GBU
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Here are a few scriptures that should help show truth

    Galatians 1:8,9, no, Angel given another gospel not ok.

    Revelation 14, 144,000, seem to be clearly defined in: Revelation 7:3-4, broken down by tribe: Revelation 7:3-8,

    Not just the Laterdaysaints: Revelation 7:9-17,

    don't add to word, or take away from: Revelation 22:18,19

    Matthew 25:31-46,

    Women prophets Judges 4:4, Luke 2:36, Exodus 15:20,

    Acts 4:12, John 14:6, John 3:16,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 3 years ago
    Janet,

    When a person dies, their body lays in the grave, but their spirit immediately goes to be with the Lord. In fact, the word death means separation. So at the point of death, a persons spirit separates from their body and goes to be with the Lord.
  • George H Shouey - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 3 years ago
    Read 1 Thess. 4. It is the clearest text about the Second Coming and what happens when you die. The dead come from the grave and meet the Lord in the air. Also consider this. When Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead, John 11, if he was in Heaven Jesus brought him back so the Pharases could kill him. John 12:10 Jesus said "he sleeps when He was addressing comments regarding Lazarus' death. Everyone is in the grave until the resurrection of the just or the resurrection of the unjust. John 5:28-29
  • Adam - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 3 years ago
    Sleep:

    Daniel 12:2

    Job 14:12

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

    1 Corinthians 15:18-20

    Matthew 9:24

    Hello, the Bible says when we die we will enter a state to await Jesus's return then will face judgment all together. It's called judgment day. Matthew 12:36, Hebrews 9:27. There's no verse saying people get to skip this. There's no verse saying that all people go to heaven instantly, only to later travel back to earth into your body, then meet Jesus in the air, then to only go back to judgment after you've already been in heaven. It's not scriptural or logical and seems to require misinterpreting the following 2 verses, by cherry picking and broadly interpreting it as if it automatically represents all people and all circumstances.

    "absent with body present with Lord" isn't in the Bible. That phrase has been changed from 2 Corinthians 5:8 where Paul said he would "rather" be absent from the body, and present with the Lord. He didn't say in 100% of all cases when people die that 100% of the time they will be "immediately" with the Lord, regardless. Paul was only stating his preference. It doesn't mean Hitler and other mass murderers are with the Lord right now, simply because of this one verse.

    Second, people often quote the verse about the man on the cross that Jesus said would be in "paradise" on that day as support. But Jesus didn't say 100% of all people, from this moment onward will 100% go to heaven, and zero people going to hell including Hitler? Jesus has the power to make exceptions and take people to heaven, but the word paradise is not necessarily the same as heaven. Some believe this word means a waiting area for the dead.

    Lastly, these are only 2 verses requiring creative interpretation, but at least 5 verses say we'll be sleeping are straightforward. Which is true? Bible says all will be judged, not just some. So, believing people go immediately to heaven without waiting on the Lord, and skipping judgment doesn't align with the other scripture either.
  • Luke - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 3 years ago
    Yes, we go straight to Heaven when we die.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 3 years ago
    There are verses such as "absent from the body is present with the Lord" ( 2 Cor. 5:8); and others where Jesus says He isn't the God of the dead but the living ( Mark 12:27). There is mention of souls under the altar in Revelation ( Rev. 6:9-11) and the transfiguration; as well as David stating that he would not see his dead son come to him but he would go to him ( 2 Samuel 12:23). When the Rapture comes; then there will be a reuniting of souls with bodies when the dead saints are raised; then we who are alive are changed into Resurrection bodies without death ( 1 Cor. 15:51-52). The final Great White Throne judgment is for those who are in hades or what is now called hell; who are judged according to their works then thrown in the lake of fire. From my undestanding of eschatology; there could very well be those who physically survive the Millenium period and ARE written in the Book of Life.

    There is more that can be said; but I felt that the focus should be on how NOW we can recognize through Christ and the new man in us what will exist someday in eternity by the power of the Holy Spirit. If we are saved; then we are new creatures; and although we see darkly as through a glass; we get a taste of things to come ( 1 Cor. 13:12). We are already spiritually "seated in heavenly places" ( Eph. 2:1-9). We become hearers of His voice; and start to sense His presence; and have the "mind of Christ" ( 1 Cor. 2:16). He has given us good works to do which no doubt will continue in heaven in some form as we are all uniquely created.

    Scripture simply doesn't allow for an nihilism in any way; verses differentiate between the word "qeber" for the body in the grave and "sheol" which is the state of the soul in the O.T. after death. Now; we can go immediately into God's presence; so Satan no longer has power over our souls to keep them under the earth in the paradise part of sheol anymore HEBREWS 2:14-15! Perfect love casts out fear ( 1 John 4:18).
  • Richard cain - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 3 years ago
    Janet:

    remember the parable jesus gave about the poor begger that the rich man wouldn't give him the crumbs that fell from his table? moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. the begger died and was carried away into abrahams bosom, the rich man died and he was..buried; and in hell he lifted up his eyes and saw lazarus in abrahams bosom. it depends on the way you lived your life in your body (the life that god gave you!! )determines which place you spend eternity. with abraham bosom (heaven,garden of eden, paradise,the kingdom of god whatever..you surely don't want to go where that rich man that wouldn't give that begger the crumbs that fell from his table!!! hope this helps...
  • Julie - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 3 years ago
    I like to think of the scripture absent of the Body in Presence of the Lord n the their whom owned up to his sins and Jesus told him he would be in Paradise n the one Like into the Angels we become is another fav but my favorite one is the one on The Last to go in Lake of Fire Death alit of grief I have had and almost 60 so hope you find what your looking for in ? Just felt like Sharing somewhat with what The Bible says on subject :)
  • Danny partin - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 3 years ago
    2nd Corinthians 5:8 [ absent from the body is to be present with the Lord]

    1st Thessalonians 5:10

    1st Thessalonians 4:13-18

    1st Corinthians 15th chapter

    Read also about thief on the cross Luke 23: 39-43

    Lazarus & the rich man Luke 16: 20-31
  • JANET on Revelation 22 - 3 years ago
    Could someone tell me, when you die, do you go straight to heaven, or are you "in the grave" awaiting the Lord Jesus to raise you from the dead when he comes back again? I just feel quite confused as to what happens when you die.

    Many thanks,

    Janet
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on James 1 - 3 years ago
    Gary Myers,

    We sleep in death until we are resurrected.

    If I may give my understanding.

    Luke 16:19-31 First, we must understand this is a parable, and the parables Jesus told he had to explain for his disciples to understand and he did not explain this one. We cannot take this passage as a literal description.

    In the context of Luke 16, Jesus is talking to Pharisees and scribes about stewardship, love of riches, adultery and no servant can serve two masters. The Pharisees were covetous, they flaunted their wealth and the seat of authority they had. Is this parable describing a holding place where the redeemed can live in peace but can look and even talk across a vast chasm with the sufferings of the sinners in torment?

    The Babylonian Talmud speaks of "Abraham's Bosom" as the place that righteous Jews went after they died. The Jewish people of the time of Jesus had been influenced by Babylonian and Hellenistic Greek cultures, and that influence is still today.

    Jesus was probably using a common image from that culture to create a picture that they could relate to their final destination. This parable also does not fit all of the scripture if we receive our reward as soon as we die, as said, we go to heaven or hell.

    Many scriptures tell us when we will receive our reward and it is not when we die. Here are just a few and they all agree it is at the second coming of Jesus Christ. Matthew 16:27 1 Corinthians 1:7-8 1 Corinthians 15:22-23 1 Thessalonians 2:19 Revelation 22:12

    John wrote this a while after Jesus ascended, he said Jesus was in heaven, "Son of man which is in heaven", John 3:13. Peter said David is dead and buried and his sepulcher is with us unto this day, and he has not ascended to heaven. Acts 2:29-34

    The day of redemption, Eph. 4:30 1 Cor. 15:52 1 Thess.4:16 (not descend) and many more.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • TREE OF LIFE__ARK OF THE TESTAMENT - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Adam and Eve would've lived eternally in sin.

    That's why the Tree of Life was protected while Adam and Eve were sent out of the Garden.

    We see the Tree of Life in Revelation 22:2,

    In Heaven.

    One of Jesus's names is the Tree of Life.

    The Ark of the Testament is also in Heaven.
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Ronald,

    I appreciate your respectul remarks and am ok with continuing to dialog as long as that remains.

    I can offer a challenge to few of your points in your last comment.

    1. John 1:1 says, "In the beginning", God does not have a beginning.

    It sounds like you are using this as evidence to support your view. I don't view it that way at all. First, this says "in the beginning" not "in God's beginning" or "in the Word's beginning". So, this phrase doesn't suggest any limitation on God whatsoever, but is just marking for us in our own human terms that Jesus was always there.

    Do you remember Jesus saying this: "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." That doesn't mean He's limited, but the opposite, it means He spans everything! Revelation 22:13 - notice the words in red that Jesus said that.

    It also says this in Revelation 1:8, notice it says "says the Lord". Lord is Greek word kurios which is supreme authority or God. Some translations say "says the Lord God" and is the same meaning. This is Jesus speaking about Himself, it too is in red.

    Isaiah 44:6 "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." - notice this is the same claim Jesus made in Revelation. If there's only one and only one who makes that claim then it seems logical that the claim in both the New and Old Testament are from the same being.

    Revelation 11:17 - This uses the same word Lord (kurios) of which Jesus is Lord ( Romans 10:9) and uses the word theos (God) with it, so it calls Jesus "Lord God." Do you agree? How do you feel about this verse?

    Isaiah 43:11 - "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." So, it says Jesus is Lord and our savior in the New Testament and there's no other Lord. Here in the OT it also says the Lord is the savior and no one else. That is all in alignment with John 10:30. Yes?

    John 5:23 - we must honor Jesus.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    but go, show yourself to the Priest. Luke 5:14, Luke 17:14, Matthew 8:4, Mark 1:44,

    Deuteronomy 4:2, Revelation 22:18-19
  • GiGi - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 3 years ago
    Hello sundry

    Jesus is speaking of the Holy Spirit as the "He".
  • Sundry on Revelation 22 - 3 years ago
    What does the bible mean when it says He will guide you into all truth? who is this He? Thanks
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Matthew 7 - 3 years ago
    Hey Linda,

    Yes, it is for real, we will not be in these corruptible flesh bodies, 1 Corinthians 15:53.

    Revelation 21:1-3 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

    Revelation 22:1-4 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. 2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. 3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: 4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

    I don't think our human minds can comprehend what it will be like, I know I can't.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Micaiah.

    Part 1 of ?

    The bible consists of several books as you know. Revelation is just one of 66.

    I am not sure you can take Revelation 22:19 and use it as a warning for all the other books.

    This warning seems to apply to The prophecy of Revelation.

    "And if any man shall take away from the WORDS OF THE BOOK OF THIS PROPHECY, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in "THIS BOOK."

    Personally I'm not interested in any of the Apocryphal books because I believe the Lord is capable and did preserve his truth/word in these 66 books line upon line, precept upon precept.

    However I have researched as you've asked. Here's what I have been able to find.

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    The books of 1 and 2 Esdras are not part of the biblical canon. First Esdras is part of what is considered the Apocryphal/Deuterocanonical scripture. Second Esdras is an apocalyptic work and is considered pseudepigraphal. Except for some Greek Orthodox, Episcopal, or Lutheran Bibles, 1 and 2 Esdras do not appear in most Bibles. Authorship and dating of 1 and 2 Esdras are somewhat problematic, and some scholars place the writing of certain portions of 2 Esdras as late as the 2nd century AD. "Esdras" is another form of the name Ezra, which means "help."

    The Roman Catholic Council of Trent in 1546, which officially recognized several books of the Apocrypha, listed "the first book of Esdras, and the second" as part of the biblical canon. However, these are the books we normally call "Ezra" and "Nehemiah" today and are not to be confused with the pseudepigraphal 1 and 2 Esdras (which appeared in the Vulgate as 3 and 4 Esdras).

    Please see part 2.
  • Micaiah Ban Yahawadah - 3 years ago
    1st and 2nd Esdras are definitely ordained scripture. Do your research. In 1611 the King James Bible was transliterated into different languages (published) it originally had 80 books. Two and seventy years later the Protestants took it out because they realized that the Bible was only for one people and one people only the Israelites so to say it's not scripture or wasn't accepted is blasphemy. Those 14 books to include the Esdras books were in the original Bible for 270 years. The Romans ie the Protestants took it out to confuse the people. If this verse was in the Bible in 1611 when it was published explain why the 14 books lasted for 270 years and then removed

    "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

    Revelation 22:19 KJV

    Explain that.don't go anywhere else.explain that and that only!!!!!
  • Bro dan - In Reply on John 20 - 3 years ago
    Naseem,

    May these verses help to shine some light for you to understand that Jesus is in fact God.

    John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

    John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

    Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

    John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

    Here Jesus is speaking to the Apostle John in Revelation 22:13

    "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."

    There are three (3) entities in the Godhead. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Many people struggle with trying to understand this unique and very special relationship.

    GB you
  • OLD MAN WILSON - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Job 23:14

    For HE (the Father, Spirit, Life) performeth the thing that is appointed for me (the Body).......

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God (the Father, Spirit, Life) that worketh in you (the Body) both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

    Ephesians 4:4 ONE BODY .....ONE SPIRIT .....

    Ephesians 4:6 ONE GOD and Father of ALL .....

    Not many BELIEVE that the LIFE in their BODY is CHRIST.

    Matthew 7:14 Because straight is the gate, and narrow is the way, that leadeth unto LIFE, and few there be that find it.

    John 10:10 .....I am come that they might HAVE LIFE ......

    John 19:28 I give unto them ETERNAL LIFE ...

    1 Timothy 6:18 WHO only (CHRIST ONLY) hath immortality, dwelling in the LIGHT which no man can approach unto .....

    John 11:25 I am the resurrection, and THE LIFE .....

    John 14:6 ....I am THE LIFE .....

    John 20:31 ....and that BELIEVING you might have LIFE through HIS NAME .....

    Revelation 22:4 ....and HIS NAME shall be in their foreheads .....

    Revelation 3:12 ...and I will write upon him MY NAME .....

    Acts 2:38 ....be ye baptised every one of you IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST .....

    John 17:21 That they all may be ONE, as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also be ONE IN US ......

    God Bless You.
  • OLD MAN WILSON - In Reply on 1 Peter 1 - 3 years ago
    Sister Martha:

    John 4:24 God is Spirit .....

    Ephesians 4:4 ONE SPIRIT ...ONE BODY ...

    Ephesians 4:6 ONE GOD and FATHER OF ALL .....

    Man, born of woman, (FLESH), is like a Beast of the Earth, NO KNOWLEDGE.

    The Holy Ghost came to GIVE MAN KNOWLEDGE.

    So we can be BORN OF SPIRIT.

    God IS SPIRIT, no beginning and no end.

    God created a IMMORTAL BODY, and put inside that IMMORTAL BODY, HIS SPIRIT (Himself), and called that BODY, Jesus Christ, the first man, the TRUE ADAM, with no beginning and no end.

    Here is a PROPHECY in Genesis:

    Genesis 5:2 Male and Female created he them, and blessed them, and CALLED THEIR NAME ADAM. in the DAY they were created.

    That day (of that creation), is called the DAY OF THE LORD, the day you come out of darkness into light. You come to the KNOWLEDGE that by the RESURRECTION of Christ's NEW BODY (YOU and I) and the NEW LIFE by the SPIRIT of THE FATHER: we become ADAM, Christ was the first ADAM, before the flesh and blood Adam, we are the last, ADAM, created in Christ Jesus

    Revelation 1:8 ... Revelation 22:13 I AM Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.

    Ephesians 4:4 ....ONE BODY .......

    There is only ONE BODY that can exist in the next age, and THAT BODY is the BODY OF CHRIST.

    1 Timothy 6:16 Who only (Christ only) hath immortality, dwelling in the LIGHT ......

    1 Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth IT (the new creation in Christ) a BODY as it hath pleased him, and to ever SEED HIS (God's on body), God's BODY IS JESUS CHRIST.

    WE ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST, The Father (SPIRIT) being THE LIFE, of the BODY.

    This NEW BIRTH happens when your body of FLESH and BLOOD DIES.

    Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also predestinated to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the FIRSTBORN (Alpha) among many brethren (Omega).

    God Bless You.
  • Trip - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 3 years ago
    Chapter 8 is the 7th seal, and it's speaking about the seals, Angels, and trumpets(of deception) that came before them and what happens in them.

    Beginning in v7 is what happens in the first trumpet of deception, sounding now and during the hour of temptation, the consumer stage of when the locust army appears on earth and kills 1/3 of people spiritually... trees in the verse is symbolic of people,,, the trumpets are trumpets of deception,,, people are deceived into believing the anti-christ is the true Christ(the rapture), and when we worship or follow other than the true Christ, we die a spiritual death.

    9:4 is when those(trees)who have received the seal of God are protected from the trumpets of deception, and The Locust Army that appears on earth during that time.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 3 years ago
    Jimmy,

    Here's some things I would like to share with you. Revelation 8:6 to Chapter 11 Verse 19 gives us the description of the 7 trumpets. Revelation 8:7 is the first trumpet. The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood. It's becoming very intense! And they were cast upon the earth: and 1/3 of the trees was burnt up, as well as the grass, or green vegetation.

    Only 1/3 of the trees was burnt up, so any grass that was below those trees would burn also. That would be 1/3 of the grass in that area. To make sense of Revelation 9:4, we would have to believe that not all grass on the entire earth was burnt up because it tells us the locusts were commanded not to hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing or any tree.

    Here's what fascinates me. Why would God command these locusts not to hurt the green vegetation? It's because these things are the locusts' natural food. These locusts would quickly die out without the vegetation to sustain them, and God's plan was for them to live and torment those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

    Revelation 9:5 says that they were to torment them for five months. Something else that's interesting is why five months? Well, five months is the actual lifespan of a locust, from May through December.

    As for Revelation 22:18-19, Verse 18 is basically telling us that there are no more "new prophecies" after the book of Revelation. Anyone adding more is adding to the book. Revelation 22:19 says "if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life."

    Please notice that it doesn't say the book of the Lamb. God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. We don't want to take away from the book of Revelation and make it be something else rather than what it is. It is the Revelation of Jesus Christ.

    I hope this helps!
  • Jimmy on Revelation 22 - 3 years ago
    Please explain Ch. 8:7 grass burned up

    then Ch 9:4 not to hurt the grass and trees

    Ch. 22:18-19 Who will get added plagues and who will have taken away his part out of book of life?
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Luke 9 - 3 years ago
    Hi Dora.

    On Luke 9:27.

    The previous verse gives the period of time in which this takes place. Luke 9:26. For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, WHEN HE SHALL COME IN HIS OWN GLORY, AND IN HIS FATHER'S, AND OF THE HOLY ANGELS.

    In the preceding verses

    Luke 9:28-35. we see a GLIMPSE of Christ in his glory that is mentioned. Also Peter makes mention of this event in 2 Peter 1:16-18. For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

    For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

    And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.

    I believe this takes place at his second coming. Look at Matthew's account.

    Matthew 16:27. For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; AND THEN HE SHALL REWARD EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS WORKS.

    Revelation 22:12. And, behold, I come quickly; AND MY REWARD IS WITH ME, TO GIVE EVERY MAN ACCORDING AS HIS WORK SHALL BE.

    I hope this helps,

    God bless.
  • Daniel - In Reply - 3 years ago
    The commissioning of the King James Bible (hence the name) was authorized so by King James 1 in 1604.

    Why the King James Version instead of other Bibles? For me, accuracy plays a large role in what scripture is to us -- especially given this was translated to English out of many other ancient languages (ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, koine Greek, etc). However, the origin of the texts which Erasmus had used when translating the New Testament (for instance) of the King James Bible comes from an Antioch text. This text was much older and authenticated which was for a time hidden during the Byzantine wars. The text of translation of 98% of modern Bibles comes from an Alexandrian text which was found later in Egypt and is clearly missing verses which are in the Antioch (King James Bible). For instance (do some research on this for comparison), the NIV is a very popular modern Bible version which was first published in the 1960's. Yet, it's missing over 15 verses in the N.T. alone.

    We should never be reading an incomplete Bible or one in which verses had been removed as I would equate this to the warning in Revelation 22:18 & 19
  • ITS NOT HOLLYWOOD_ITS THE END OF SIN FOREVER-Streetpreacher - In Reply on Genesis 3 - 3 years ago
    In Genesis when God had finished creating, He said it was GOOD. All the trees were good for food.

    Only one was forbidden to eat of it. Tree of Life.

    So they disobeyed and ate of the Tree of the knowledge of GOOD AND EVIL. All of a sudden they notice they have no covering. They used fig leaves because they were there.

    They were covered by purity until they sinned.

    God confronted them. They confessed. God performed the first sacrifice of an animal and made them clothes.

    The Tree of Life was immediately guarded by an Angel with a flaming sword. If they had eaten of that tree they would live eternally in sin without forgiveness.

    One of Jesus's names is Tree of Life.

    No archaeologists have been able to find where the garden of Eden was. Revelation shoes us that The Tree of Life was moved. Revelation 22:2

    Also, the Ark of the Covenant is in heaven. Revelation 11:19. I believe when the Antichrist arrives at Armageddon to fight against Jesus and his army of the saints of God, on white horses: the Ark of the Testament will slay Antichrist's army. Antichrist's doom is to be thrown into hell, with the False Prophet and the Beast.

    I prayed over that event. The Bride of Christ (the saints of God) aren't going to hack through a million man army, and fill the battlefield up to the horses bridles. We see violence on tv and don't even blink. True?

    The Ark will slay Jesus's enemies. I believe we will be over the top with joy and victory at the end. To see our Beloved's Victory over Satan

    I think "The Church" has been, for a few decades; lukewarm, deaf to Jesus's command to GO YE. Evangelize the lost and those that are blind and deaf that there is GOOD NEWS; if they will repent and grab onto Jesus. He is the Ark. Like Noah did, we gotta preach, Listen!! This is all going to BURN. Wall to wall fire. 2 PETER 3:9-11

    God wrote it. He's going to do it. One asteroid caused total extinction on earth: killed all the dinosaurs.


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