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Hello Richard. I wonder where you would hear of such a preclusion? There is certainly no Scripture at all to support this - but if someone came to me & said that 'only men with beards can worship, play music or give a testimony, I might have a miniscule of a reason to consider the thought, given that the men of old generally wore beards. But no, the heart of that brother would be most important to the Lord & the brethren, making his message & worship acceptable.

Hi Cassidy. Jesse has shared some very good thoughts for you. If I may expand on them, as I perceive these verses. If you look at Revelation 1:1, we read, "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it BY HIS ANGEL unto his servant John".

This Book is what the risen Jesus, the Son of God, wanted to show to John & then John to deliver the message to us. Jesus did by passing His Message (i.e. the whole Book of the Revelation) via His angel (we're not told his name). So when you read Revelation 22:8,9, you can well imagine the state of ecstasy that John was already in because of the volume & intensity of those visions, which he could barely comprehend & even make sense of. Therefore, I see John as almost losing his self-awareness because of being in rapture, that he fell to the ground to pay homage to the deliverer of those visions, rather than to the Author of them. But the angel quickly retorts, 'Don't be foolish & do such a thing, rather worship & thank God; for I am only the messenger, as the prophets of old were, doing the Will & Work of God.' My apologies for this rendering; just wanted to share how I understand this passage whenever I come to it. Yes, I believe the angel was a 'heavenly being', of similar state as the other angels, & as the others from Earth in their glorified state.

The other Jesus comes and takes away His believers at the rapture .

Then the real Jesus comes to Jerusalem on the last day , God only knows that day . There will be signs said Jesus in Mathew 24 and Luke 21 .

"God made a special exception for the thief."? Then, a LOVING God would Also Make Special EXCEPTIONS Today for ALL who are disabled, wheelchair bound, bedridden, and dying in the hospitals, Correct?

I thank God that His Gospel of GRACE is SO 'simple' Today, with 'ONE Spiritual' Baptism for me, AND 'ALL of the above' folks who may trust In HIM, and Not In ANY 'works.' Rom 11:6 Amen?:

ONE Baptism:

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Praise His Precious And Holy Name, now And forevermore!

Melody (such a beautiful name) overcoming addiction alone is hard. I was an alcoholic for for roughly 20 years. I'd give it up but within time I'd return right back to it. It wasn't until I was at the lowest point in my life that I realized what I actually had become and that I was actually powerless over the addiction that I threw myself into the arms of Gods mercy. Once I surrendered it all to The Lord in repentance I left it there. And without any of my own doing, except my surrender, I was delivered. Delivered! Something I struggled with for years God instantly removed from my life! The Lord is good, what he did for me he can do for you! Have faith, believe, resist the devil (addiction) and he shall flee.... Keep praying and don't forget to repent and HE WILL deliver you sweetie...... I will keep you in prayer because I know God is able!...... Oh, one more thing, being in the company of other addicts is like placing chains around your ankles you will be pulled back into the environment and tempted. You must remove yourself for the presence of the addiction and find something meaningful to you to replace it. The more you engage in something that stimulates you with joy the less power the addiction will have over you! With all The love of Jesus Christ remain in him and he shall remain in you :)

Hi Cassidy,

To me, Revelation 22:9 reads that John was interacting with a (resurrected human) fellow servant, a brethren of the other prophets and a Christ/God follower on a level consistent with the Apostle John himself. So, essentially asking John to not worship him, but to worship God.

God Bless.

Is it biblically correct to not let someone worship who has a beard?

Such as play a special song or testify from platform

Jesus spoke in John 3:3-5 that we must be born of water & the Spirit to enter into the kingdom of God. This is fulfilled in the book of Acts 2:38. It is the New Testament salvation. Peter was given the keys to the kingdom of heaven by Jesus Christ. John the Baptist baptized unto repentance. Peter said to repent & be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. And here's Luke 24:47: "And that repentance & remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem". Water baptism is all through the Bible. Noahs

ark was a type of baptism. The parting of the Red sea was a type of baptism. It's in the Bible & it's God's word. Amen to Darryl King. I've obeyed Acts 2:38. Amen

When he says he is of John's brethren, he is simply saying that he is a fellowservant or worshipper of Christ. All true believers are brothers and sisters in Christ. Christ is the head, and we are the members of his body.

Brother Daniel,

Many think that Paul wrote Hebrews. There are some inconsistencies in this text as compared to Pauls other writings, so many believe that it was someone else that wrote Hebrews.

There has been much research into this topic and you can also research this in more detail on the web.

God Bless.

Dgjot,

I would like to share a couple of things with you. You mention getting saved so I have to assume that you have surrendered your life to Christ and been born of His Spirit. If so, you belong to Him. Just as Paul professed himself to be a slave to Jesus Christ, we also are a slaves to Christ if indeed we belong to Him.

The section you mention in Hebrews Chapter 10 is not talking about a saved person losing their salvation. Those who don't believe in the eternal security of the believer will use Hebrews 10:26 to show that a person can lose their salvation. That's not what it's talking about. It's talking about those Jews who were following along with the teachings, "receiving the knowledge of the truth," but instead of surrendering their lives to Christ, they were turning away and going back into Judaism.

Those Jews had a very tough decision to make, either denounce Judaism and surrender to Christ, or turn back because it would be much easier for them to do so. If they received Christ as their Savior, their family would disown them, they would lose their jobs, and they would be kicked out of their own temple. That was their dilemma.

So Hebrews 10:26 is speaking of those Jews who were considering turning back. So the writer is basically telling them that Jesus Christ is the final sacrifice for your sin. If you want to turn away from this gospel message and go back into your system of Judaism, your system of sacrificing for sin, there remains no other sacrifice.

As far as where you stand, only you know where you stand with Christ. Only you know if you've fully surrendered your life to Him. If you have, your salvation is firm and complete in Christ Jesus. He is the final sacrifice for your sin. He purchased you with His precious blood. It is by His power alone that you are being kept until the day He comes to redeem His purchased possession (You and I). My friend, you have to trust in His promise ( Romans 10:13, John 6:39, 1 Peter 3:5).

Brother Alex,

God made a special exception for the thief. It is also very probable that the thief never had a chance to hear the WORD of God, hence God can make these kinds of exceptions. But, you, and I, and many others, have heard Jesus Christ's gospel, and we are supposed to be following Jesus. If we turn our backs on Christ's commandments, or HIS WORDS, we will not be treated like the thief, because we have been forewarned by Jesus what he expects from us!

2 Peter 2:21

"For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them."

John 3:5

"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 24:35

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."

Read and believe!

God Bless.

Amen Brother Jesse.

God bless you.

Hello Christian friend . Thank you for your answer . I think I didn't ask properly . It wasn't really the worship God bit I was asking about sorry . I was confused by the angel saying that he was of John's brethren and the prophets , was the angel a heavenly being or was he a human messenger like the prophets were ? John would not have attempted to worship him unless he looked like a heavenly being but he says he's not which implies he was a human messenger . Any way , it always confuses me slightly . Thanks again .

Hello Cassidy,

Here's what I can share with you. Hopefully this helps.

Revelation 22:8 was probably a natural response by John. After going through all of this, and getting to see and experience all these things in the spirit, John falls down to worship at the feet of the angel.

Revelation 22:9: Then he (the angel) says unto me, See thou do it not: for I am your fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book:

And then the angel gives a command: Worship God. Why would an angel say this?

At the end of Hebrews chapter 1, it says the angels are ministering spirits to those who belong to Christ, to those who are saved. So the angels see themselves as part of God's work among us. And so this angel says "Don't worship me. I'm just a messenger like you are. But rather, worship God."

It's kind of interesting because even from the Old Testament, you cannot worship anybody but God. But yet, after the resurrection of Christ in John chapter 20, when Jesus appeared to the disciples behind closed doors, and Thomas was with them, Thomas sees Him and says "My Lord, and my God."

Well, if He's not Lord and God, then that's blasphemy. But Jesus didn't tell Thomas "Hey, you shouldn't say that Thomas. I'm just the Son. I'm not God." No, Jesus received Thomas' worship because He is God. Worship Him!

Again, I hope this helps!

Dear Earl Bowman am not often disagree with you but this time i am. In Jesus Name.

Remember when the gards stuck The Lord with the spear it comes out of the Lord exactly blood and wather. John 19:34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. And also

The Lord said: Luke 23:43

And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

King of King have Absolut All rights too have this authority to said soo, and do what ever He want.

That was a terrible day and the days after, it was dark and many ppl stand up from the grave, and evan walked in Jerusalem!

May God bless us all with fully understanding in the right time, in Jesus Holy Name.

Reed it into the telephone and listening in work, in walk, before bedtime, and soo often you can. Test yourself to wright it down. Learn by Heart. The word is already live in side your . In Jesus Holy Name, Good luck with the task.

Hi Sharron Many times in the old testament the children of Israel and judah Worshipped and at Times built obelisk and Groves on Hilltops and burn't sacrifices and literally in some types of worship had orgies to other Gods of unbelieving nations namely Baalim , Ashtoreth, Molech, The Queen of the Heavens, Sungod, these are just some examples. Many times these sacrifices included humans.

Brother Earl,

My answer would be that the born-again will still experience physical death, but never spiritual death. We are all born into this world spiritually dead and because of sin, we are separated from God. It is not until a person surrenders their life to Christ that they are made spiritually alive. At the point of salvation, we are made spiritually alive, never again to be separated from God. The death that a true believer (one who has been born of God's Spirit) will never experience is what the bible refers to as the second death. So the answer to your question would be yes and no. Yes, we as born again believers will experience physical death (Unless of course the Lord comes in our lifetime), and no, we will not experience the second death, spiritual death (Eternal separation from Christ), because we have been made alive in Christ. He is our seal. He is eternal. He lives in us. He will never leave us. So if I say I have eternal life, I am in essence saying that I have the eternal one, Christ living in me. I will always have Christ in me, and since He is eternal, I have eternal life, I have Christ. Would you like for me to share my understanding of the verses you listed?

Hi Brother Earl,

I believe that your message is incorrect, and it conflicts with God's true message.

God can have mercy on whomever he pleases.

Romans 9:18

"Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth."

The example that you stated of Jesus forgiving the thief on the cross was "a special act of mercy" for the thief, NOT a message to "all mankind" to go ahead and keep sinning and just say that you believe in Christ and you will be saved. That message of just believing is a FALSE MESSAGE! Even the devil and his demons believe, are they going to heaven too?

We must not only believe, we must be baptized in water, receive the Holy Spirit, also REPENT, and lead a good christian life following the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Jesus/God's message is plain for all to see. We can't just ignore what Jesus instructs us to do. There is so much scripture of Jesus telling us what we need to do, to enter into the kingdom.

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Revelation 22:12-14

12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Do you believe the above scripture? If you believe the above scripture, and if you love Jesus you will follow HIS advice! If you turn your back on the above scripture, Jesus has already said that he will be our JUDGE, and he will judge us according to HIS WORD!

God Bless.

Hello All . Can some one help me with this question ? In Revelation Ch 22 V8 & 9 John goes to worship the angel and the angel tells him not to and basically says that he is a human so John shouldn't worship him John should only worship God . I know that some times angels can just be humans but John wouldn't have attempted to worship this angel if it just looked like a human would be ? Surely John would only have tried to worship the angel if it looked like a heavenly being . So why does the angel say what it or he says in Ch 9 ? I have read the Bible quite a few times but this thing always bugs me .

What was the Shunammite woman meant when she answered Elisha, "I dwell among mine own people"?

Amen and Amen EARL BOWMAN and i think that the Thief was baptised when he heard the Words of our lord as Jesus said you are made Clean by the Words i have spoken unto you. Today if you will hear his voice etc .The H.G fell on them that heard his voice his Words etc. The baptism of Promise .

Jesse When it comes to scripture I endeavor not to assume, with Elijah it says he was taken up to heaven which is biblically anyplace above earth Genesis I.E. Firmament, so why couldn't God transport Him from one place on earth to another, also Elisha begged them not to look for Him because he knew they would never find him. It doesn't say scripturally that either Enoch or Elisha never physically died that would contradict scripture because there will be no corruption in the new heaven and earth. Also as Paul said it corruption cannot inherit incorruption. I know many believers who believe this, just saying. What I don't get is Gods Word says there will be a resurrection of the body of Christ and a resurrection of the just and unjust which covers everyone else so other than Jesus Christ who was raised from the dead permanently why would anyone else until the times stated biblically.

Clade X event was May15,2018 and the global Covid plandemic was declared a global on march11,2020 count the number of days between these dates its 666 days , what's this prove? They knew and planned it all. Now do you see how 666 is connected to the corona virus , corona means crown God said let no MAN STEAL YOUR CROWN.

Precious friend, Paul, please advise 'Which' verse(s) in 2 Corinthians 5 you are referring to?

Precious friend, Landon. Water baptism to be saved? Yes, for Israel, to be "inducted into the priesthood," and for "remission of sin," However:

Rightly Divided 2 Timothy 2:15 From "Things That DIFFER!":

No, for the Body Of CHRIST! = No "works" to be saved, as it is by "GRACE Through faith" Ephesians 2:8-9 There is ONLY 'ONE' Baptism, Today, Under God's PURE GRACE!:

ONE 'Spiritual' Baptism to be saved? Yes!:

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Sister Sharron, the high places of worship are the CARNAL MIND; only, God's word can destroy them.

We were asked this question, "where is Jesus in the New Testament found in the Old Testament?"

Philippians 2:12 please notice the similarity in these verses in context Philippians 2:3-4, read Philippians 2:1-15,

Matthew 25:31-46

Proverbs 3:1-35

Isaiah 58:1-14

Jude 1:1-25

I have drawn comfort from these scriptures. Jude 1:24-25, 1 Jude 1:21,

Nahum 1:7 also in context is the bigger picture

Luke 12:32 Luke 12:1-59

1 Colossians 1:10-23

Philippians 1:6

I hope these scriptures give you a bigger picture that the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY is showing us & are encouraging to you. Many more I wanted to share but deleted & held back to not overwhelm with too much reading all at once.