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God is not the father of the dead !!!! As a matter of fact, no one is dead as of yet , an there is only one person who is written of that is to definitely die , an that of course is Lucifer in Ezekiel chapter 28 , but as we read in Ecclesiastes chapter 12 vs 6 & 7 , the flesh returns to dust , an the returns to God who gave it,.. an in Luke chapter 16 we learn of the 2 sides of heaven with an impassable gulf in between,.. an of course, absent from this body is present with the lord in 2nd Corinthians chapter 5 vs 7 & 8 ,.. so please, be of sound mind and cheerful, no one is in some hole in the ground, " "death where is your sting grave where is your victory "

Luke 18-38 How is that they call Jesus son of David at church today that was the worship song it was a little troubling

It was in this book of Scripture that I felt that deep abiding love for all things through Jesus Christ. He is all that truly matters in this life. Nothing is more fulfilling than having the Holy Spirit as He reveals the truth of God's eternal plans for those who seek after the Lamb that was slain for all sinners. Free will is an amazing thing to ponder, you and I are given the choice for life with Christ or life without Christ for all eternity. That should make us fear the Lord and make us so very humble, for all that the Cross means. Our sins so easily separate us from the GREATEST LOVE that ever was, the Love that forgives us all our sins! May it ever amaze us today and every day til Jesus returns for those of us He calls His own. Unspeakable joy should overwhelm our souls as we feed on the Word of the Lord. Thank you Jesus for Eternal Life, the most generous gift of all. May we sing with joy the Everlasting truths of God's Word. PRAISE THE LORD! Lift high the Royal banner! Proclaim Jesus Christ from the mountain tops.

Your exactly right. You sleep. Like suspended animation. Because time doesn't exist in eternity. Whether you pass a thousand years ago or today, we're all asleep until he comes again. TY for your clarification!!!

Brother Adam, maybe our definition of FREE WILL differ. FREE would dictate that; that WILL, would have no CAUSE making it occur other than yourself.

Man makes CHOICES thousands or time a day; but those CHOICES have a CAUSE:

Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh in you TO WILL and TO DO ....

They is never an effect without there first being a CAUSE.

God is sovereign and the CAUSE of everything.

Romans 2:4 Man repents be CAUSE of the goodness of God

Philippians 1:29 You BELIEVE be CAUSE Christ CAUSES you to believe.

Galatians 1:20 You have faith be CAUSE Christ GIVES you HIS faith.

John 6:44 No one comes to Christ with a CAUSE, the Father draws that person to Christ.

God CAUSES and DOES everything, man is the benefactor of CAUSES of GOD.

Colossians 1:17 ...and by him all thing consist.... even you CHOICES.

John 15:5 ...you can of yourself DO NOTHING...

Lina, may God's favour continue to shine upon you.

Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a son, yet he learned obedience by the things which he SUFFERED.

We bear the same cross and walk the same path to Calvary.

1 Corinthians 15:31 ...We DIE daily..

Romans 6:6 ...our old man was crucified with him .....

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nonetheless I LIVE, yet not I, but Christ LIVETH IN ME: and the life I now live IN THE FLESH I live by the FAITH OF THE SON OF GOD, who loved me and gave himself for me.

Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery ...CHRIST IN US .....

GBU

I had been an astrologer for some years. I had a difficult salvation because Satan doesn't like to lose servants (I didn't know I was serving). I saw Jesus in a vision while doing a chart on Yom Kippur. He showed hell to me too. I was standing on a chair in terror. It's not fire or a lake. Isa 14 describes twisted roots so dense you can't get out. After a time I became convinced someone was extending a Hand towards me from the ceiling. I reached up and closed my fingers on it. Someone delivered me from demons. The screams were from me. It was difficult. The next morning when I woke up in the floor I felt free. The Holy Spirit has been with me every day since.

He helped me do Acts 19:19. He sent a friend over so I could say I was Saved. Nothing has been simple for me (like Paul) but I've never returned to the vomit I had been living in.

Maybe a month, I cried out to the Lord Jesus for new friends. I was blessed abundantly! I was given that movie, Jesus of Nazareth, and every time I watch it (even now), I cry buckets. I don't think deliverance really ends. It's Jesus helping us work through our salvation. Even though we're saved, He prepares His servants. I was a baby Christian out on the sidewalks looking for others like I was; street ministry. I love my life no matter what comes my way.

It hurts to see Jesus in the crucifixion scenes, because I know did that. I was blind spiritually and then I owned my part in his suffering and dying. Then I learned to Worship and Praise. I gave myself fully to the Godhead. Father is my Abba! I loved my Dad enough to threaten Death from taking him away from me. I love God more than that. Jesus loves me, and His love is sacred. The Holy Spirit helps me every time I call; which is a lot! I sit with Jesus in my closet and pray together for Israel and lost people all over the world. I'm rich in the spirit. I never felt so much love in all my 70yrs. He's coming for us soon :D

Let's rejoice now.

Mishael

Hi Earl,

It sounds like your argument is based on an assumption.

"If man has FREEWILL, why does man ALWAYS chose EVIL, why wouldn't at least a FEW men choose to never sin. If they have FREEWILL."

To challenge this assumption, I may ask why you assume a 'few' wouldn't sin and where would this expectation come from? I don't have this expectation that flawed humans can be perfect, so I wonder why you assume freewill would make such a feat possible?

Is it possible that you're conflating freedom of choice with supernatural powers? Perhaps thinking freewill is more than just a choice, but like a free wish from God?

I may 'choose' to be the tallest man in the world, but that doesn't mean I will be. Our choices only occur within our own reality. I can wish to be in Hawaii right now, but that's different than me choosing and making subsequent plans to actually go there. Our freewill doesn't mean we can transcend reality and have magical powers, so I don't think freewill helps someone be perfect. It's closer to the opposite. If we were robots we'd have no choice and would likely operate morally perfect as designed. God hates sin and doesn't make anyone sin, but if you don't have any freewill you would have to explain that contradiction. But since we do have freewill, it's not a contradiction. With freewill we're tempted every day nearly 24/7 and face constant moral choices throughout our lives and it seems unrealistic to assume that an imperfect human can somehow choose to be perfect.

Did I understand your question correctly and does anything I wrote resonate?

Amen Brother David.

A person told me that the word church does not appear in the New Testament until Revelations. But I have seen where the word church is used 79 times in the New Testament.

Hi Peter. In order for Jesus to redeem us, he had to come down as fully man yet fully God. So he had to endure all the things we did, but he did it without sinning. God gave us his son so that all who believe in him my have everlasting life. So he is both The Son of God and The Son of Man.

Does anyone know what Psalm 16:2 mean?

I take it to mean that our goodness doesn't compare or even touch on God's -

but not sure what it means.

thanks!

What does in my fathers house are mansion?

Revelation 22:14 kjv

Yes I agree those that are born of the Spirit of God and are able to worship and even pray in the Spirit to God . Those in the flesh can not .

That's not the question.

Did Jesus instruct anyone to pray to the Holy Spirit ? If so where ?

He did instruct to pray to the father , and he also said if you ask me anything I will do it . That is all in context of being in the Holy Spirit to begin with .

A clear verse teaching to pray to the Holy Spirit is what I'm asking . Thanks for your patience.

Hi Bill , thankyou for that post , just wanted to say that I believe the same as you on this subject . I believe we cease to exist until Christ returns and we are ressurected . We won't be aware of any thing and won't know where we have been or for how long , why would we need to ? It would seem from the apostles letters that they expected Christ to return to earth in their lifetime . I always feel a bit sad for them as the years rolled by and I wonder if they were sad that they were having to wait so long . When they are awoken with us ,if we have also died , what a fabulous re union for them and the joy of us all shall shake the world ! May it come to pass ever so soon .

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Jesus is the Son of God because he didn't have a human father , he was conceived by the power of God through God's Holy Spirit . He didn't have a biological physical father . He is also the Son of Man because he had a human mother , Mary . Mary obviously is not a man but is of mankind , a wo - man . Hope this helps .

Mishael , I think this is you . The film you are referring to is I think the T. V. show from the 1970's , it was a six part drama , 374 minutes or just over six hours long , staring Robert Powell . I have the whole thing on dvd but I just can't watch it . Too distressing for me . If you can manage to watch it in its full glory I would very much recommend you do so . I watched it as a child on British t.v. in 1977 . If you dont like crying in front of other people I advise you to watch it alone . It's fab . I will watch it once again I'm sure , when I'm feeling brave . Much love in Christ .

Hi Lawrence If you mean in 1 Corinthians 13 Beareth all things that means to endure under any condition and continue to believe God.

Hi Brother Carlton,

You wrote a very nice paragraph regarding your understanding of faith, and baptism, as you see it!

In reading your message, as pleasing as it sounds, I would find it much more beneficial, if you listed any scripture that would directly correlate with your message.

Thank you!

God Bless.

Thank you BELOVED . It's alright. It made me so much stronger. It truly prepared me for the world today. I know without any doubt that I MUST KEEP GOD IN THE FOREFRONT OF MY LIKE. I MUST continue to be the CALLED OUT, THE SET APART one that HE wants me to be. However, that human side of me still comes in to play. My desires to be LOVED by others even my own children . The wantingness to be loved by a husband or just mere companionship of others. The loneliness is hard at times. I know I'm never alone, but physically I am. Nonetheless, I must go on in Christ Jesus name. My BLESSINGS come each NEW day I am able to see the 4 walls of my home and not the 4 walls of my grave. I don't get a call that a loved one has departed. My children and grandchildren are doing fine. My mother is still yet alive...etc. I AM STILL BLESSED. I MUST learn NOT to be as the children of Israel and murmur or complain. The MIST HIGH GOD knows what HE'S doing in my life. I should sit back and follow HIS lead. Take the I out of SIN and replace it with O for The SON. Take i totally out of the equation and I'll be much much better. Thank you again for your response. MAY THE MOST HIGH GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WITH PEACE, LOVE, AND TOTAL PROTECTION.

overcomer We pray to God who is Holy Spirit John 4:24 and the way we do that is by what he gave us when we were born again by His gift Holy Spirit or pneuma Hagion or holy ghost which to me is a bad translation i prefer holy or seperated spirit and Spirit which is what God is spirit.

Brother Adam, If man has FREEWILL, why does man ALWAYS chose EVIL, why wouldn't at least a FEW men choose to never sin. If they have FREEWILL.

But, that would make this scripture a LIE:

Philippians 2:13 For it is God that WORKETH IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO ....

Jeremiah 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin (No), can a leopard change his spots? (No) then may you also do good, (No) that are accustomed TO DO evil.

Romans 8:20 For the creature itself was made SUBJECT TO VANITY, not willingly ....

Evil is disobeying and rebelling against God. God loved everyone enough to give everyone freewill to choose right from wrong. Think of how people would complain if they were robots without choices. Well, they aren't and not they complain when they choose evil. But most people usually only complain about the evil done to them, not the evil they do to others. They still want the freedom to commit evil which negatively impacts others. Interesting how this works.

Angels in heaven had freewill, which is why satan was banished. Adam and Eve had everything perfect but also chose evil. Evil exists because people keep choosing it willingly, and God loved them enough to allow them that choice.

To my knowledge the book of Enoch was never included in the KJV since it was only found in the 50s with the death sea scrolls. There are ample mentions of him and his writing throughout the bible though, especially the new testament.

Genesis 5:18-24. And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. This and his for the times below average lifespan of three hundred sixty and five years, everyone living about 700-1000 years in those days, mean to me that his life wasn't ended because of death, but because, as it says, God took him after Enoch walking with him, which is perfectly described in the book of Enoch.

Hebrews 11:4-5. 5 makes mention of Enoch, whom by faith was "translated". I interpret this word as him being taken by God, since he was not found due to God having translated him. For before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God, so it says, and this testimony is likely to be his writing. 4 makes mention of Abel speaking even after death, which to my knowledge isn't really explained anywhere else in the bible but is perfectly made sense of in Enoch, where he looks into the depths of the Sheol only to find Abel claiming vengeance for the murdering of him (if someone knows of any passage of the bible which also mentions this I'd be very happy to know).

Lastly, Jude 1:14-15. Must I say any more?

I don't know much about other Apocrypha. I know, superficially, for example, that the deuterocanonical books were instilled by the catholic church and are quite contradictory with the rest of the bible, for the reasons this very same website mentions in its page about the apocrypha. I haven't read them though, so I couldn't know. I recommend the book of Enoch because sufficient mention is made of him to prove its veracity, and that it satisfies the curiosity of us creationists while also explaining, as I said, the nature of malevolence, the giants, of whom David fought one, the Lords cosmology and creation, etc.

When Jesus speaks of Children its about his Children which are the Babes and Sucklings he mentions the Prophets said he wd see his seed etc .Thats y the Sower will go forth to sow his Seed in humanity ( the field is the world ) Humanity thus there is a Baby Christ in our future which is the H.G that Child of Promise ,that was the great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven thus the Babes and Sucklings are Spirits as he said that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit which are the Children of Promise .Thats y the woman in Rev. 12 : 5 is giving birth she heard his Words ( his seed ) etc. Thats how the Kingdom will Come by a lil CHILD , Unless ya receive the Kingdom as a lil Child etc. Jesus describes 2 different kinds of Children as that which is born of the flesh is flesh and that which is born of the spirit we are that which is born of the flesh but we must be bornagain of the Spirit which is the H.G. Thats the H.G. Our new innerman but also the Kingdom has to come via his seed,the word ,the contents of the book in the fathers righthand which are the seeds of the Sower. They don't refer to Jesus as the Bridegroom for nothin he has a seed to sow in humanity thus our new birth and the Children of PROMISE . Thus everytime he refered to himself as the Son of Man he was trying to tells us mankind is gonna birth a Baby Christ, The Children of Promise are gonna be as the Stars of Heaven Thats when God Almighty swore by his very self . Thus no body can stop this multiplication of Christ after the book is opened. His seeds .

why does it say jesus son of god and also says son of man ?

With respect, I'm not familiar with this phone, so I don't see or know your first name. However, and with out boast, what I do recognise and discern is true, genuine ... WISDOM. -- "We're to follow JESUS. Not opinions of others" How sad that so many people will not see or ponder the very depth of Wisdom those words contain, the same words you (and your courage) replied with. As I am absent of 'Male Ego' , I will not hesitate to tell you, your beautiful words immediately squeezed my heart. Thank you for understanding; none of my words are in compliment. I don't toss compliments to the wind. But please know that I am personally GRATEFUL and likewise Blessed for both you and your words of WISDOM. And though I have more faults than anyone I know ,,, I also know in whom I believe! And regardless/reverence ( First TIMOTHY 5:24) ,,, I will forever follow the Risen SON of the Living GOD. Bless you, as you have surely Blessed me this day of HIS CREATION. James (Allen) Meyers, text# 850-730-7626.

It says "And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father."

But ACTS 2:21 I believe says anyone who professes that I am Lord will be saved.

Not saying the Bible is a lie. But slightly confused by these two. One says anyone who says Me is saved. Then other says Only Lord calls His children.

Help?