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Chris I understand the translations and the changes but I'll stick with scripture reason being it makes them

sound less then what they are evil see the connection devil evil and also again another little change of original text. Another point The kingpin is known as The Devil amongst other titles and all messengers operating under Him are

devils. I seem to remember what happened when one person said thou shalt not surely die and another said thou

shalt surely die. Just making a point

Psalm 139:7-12 might be a good example of God's Omnipresence.

I agree with you Dee. And not just with lying, so many so-called Christians think nothing of it, also of petty-thieving, gossip, slander, etc., etc. I think many use the 10 Commandments as their guage for right behaviour & everything else falls into the 'minor sins' category & remains unaccountable before God. Whereas those who have the Spirit of God, always remain sensitive to Him, feeling His tug on our hearts & minds, even the gentle urging or prodding to walk the other way or refrain from doing or saying something. One example that comes to mind is a person I know who openly states that when she goes to buy some fruit, she will always try first before buying, since one has to be sure that the fruit is worth the money. She doesn't consider what she does as stealing, just a sampling.

Even though it's so easy to pronounce judgement on such people, maybe our response should rather be to help them see the matter correctly & maybe do the right thing on their behalf that they might learn. And for lying, if truth is shared (whether from the Word or from calling them out), their lying condition will be exposed. What they do with that exposition will determine where they're at before God.

Hi Betty My apologies have to catch up on my spelling! God Bless

Hi Gigi I see what he connects but that chain is made out of butter over fire and doesn't hold against

the truth of scripture. Its true we have Christ in us the hope of glory but to say we are saviours because

God works in us through Christ is heretical which is an opinion elevated to a level of absolute even though

not true. It is true we have in the age of grace been given the ministry of reconciliation but that is because,

of Gods grace through Jesus Christ our lord and Saviour, so too say that we are saviours again out of context.

To say that we will like God because in the old testament moses was called to lead the

children out of Israel and God chose to display His Power through Moses again out of context, but trust me there's

a saying here [a man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still].

No offence Adam but you do greatly err scripture says where sin abounds grace does much more abound. And there is no condemnation to them in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit, Jesus knew we were gonna sin at times that y he left us some Grace. Its what he did @ calvary that keeps us , All our works are filthy rags We cannot put any confidence in the flesh. Where sin abounds his Grace does much more abound.....But we look for the day when this corruptible will put on incorruptible and this mortal will put on immortality we are gonna bechanged in the twinkling of an eye.

Wisdom is personified as a woman in Proverbs 1:20-21; 2:2-4; 3:14-18; 4:7-8; 8:1-36 and 9:1-12. Each time wisdom speaks. The first time wisdom speaks is in Proverbs 1:20-21.

Wisdom shouts in the street,

She lifts her voice in the square;

At the head of the noisy streets she cries out;

At the entrance of the gates in the city she utters her sayings: Proverbs 1:20-21 (NASB)

The Hebrew word for wisdom is hakmot and this noun is a feminine plural. A literal reading would seem to be "Wisdom shouts in the street," except that the second line is in the singular - "she lifts her voice." F. C. Cook writes,

In the Hebrew the noun is a feminine plural . . . as though this Wisdom were the queen of all wisdoms, uniting in herself all their excellences.[1]

That is, since Proverbs 2:6 says that God gives wisdom, the wisdom in Proverbs is the queen of all wisdoms. There is no greater wisdom.

comment: I don't think proverbs 31 means wisdom is a heavenly female creature. My opinion. It is the way Solomon (had 900 wives;300 concubines) described wisdom. Possibly Jewish literature would address this?

I don't know.

Hello Betty In James 3:13-17 gives a good summary of wisdom verse 17[correct application of information given] from

above and from below 14-16[incorrection usage of knowledge]. The word she biblically is at times used of the item

itself, I think of a man that loves something that's worked well i.e. car, tool etc. Wisdom she is worth great treasure to

those who love her and apply. It is very interesting that in nerse 17 there are eight manifested or shown in someones walk of Gods wisdom and 8 biblically signifies spiritual perfection. These are trsaits in people who endeavor to walk

in Christ Jesus via the spirit.

God Bless

Gi Gi no offence i love ya in Christ Jesus . John 14 : 12 But our Lord tells us that if any man believe in me and the works that i do these works shall he do and GREATER shall he do. Was our Lord being blasphemous ? He also tells us the very Kingdom of God is gonna be with in us . And to whom the word came it made them Gods. God says he wd walk in them and talk in them and be their God and we wd be his ppl . Even bro. Paul says its not I that live but Christ that lives with in me . so we will be saviors , Is there any thing too hard for God .

I could use some help finding any verses in the Bible in reference to witnessing, the one I'm looking for talks about if we tell them and they don't accept the Lord then their blood is on them but if we don't tell them their blood is on us. I know it's not word for word. I really want to use the verses to witness. Thanks for any help

God bless !

Hello, my question is why does Esther fear death and what is this passage trying to say? I am studying a book and it references "And laid away her glorious apparel, and put on the garments of anguish and mourning: and instead of precious ointments, she covered her head with ashes and dung, and she humbled her body greatly, and all the places of her joy she filled with her torn hair"

Good question. Would someone with a very deep understanding of Biblical Hebrew and of the ancient Bible word usage to explain whether Wisdom is really feminine or whether the noun "Wisdom" is traditionally used as feminine for grammar inflection to show gender (and what does that mean).

Adam, thank you and well said. Cynthia, pick up a Bible, please. Interested in the "science" of lgbt. I will pray for you that Jesus will fill your life.

What is wisdom that it is referred to as a female, her or she? What is the connection between God and wisdom?

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b. Page 5 of the article: I understand that Ironside is stating that our perseverance in the faith is not according to the power of our mind or will, but in concert with the Holy Spirit's enabling & persevering with us. God in us will do everything to enable His child to live for Him, deal with sin as it confronts us & walk as the redeemed of God. If I lived in such a manner in my own power, I would certainly fail as the flesh cannot combat the spiritual forces working against me - it has to be the Holy Spirit that empowers us ( Philippians 2:13; Ephesians 3:20). But if we're not 'committed to living the Christian life' in unabashed rampant sin, then the question remains, 'are we even saved'? Would God be so gracious to send forth His Spirit to reside in us to seal & secure us, & then say, 'O dear, I think I erred, let's get back out of that residence?' And if we then come to our senses & repent, that His Spirit returns back to us - maybe again & again? I never see the Spirit's movement as that of a yo-yo - once residing in the truly saved person, He's there to stay & keeps us saved & living for the Lord. That's why it behoves us never to judge one another - we simply cannot know another's spiritual condition with all certainty - but the Lord knows those who are His.

c. Page 7: Here, Ironside speaks of having eternal life now, "I am a Christian now if I believe on the Lord Jesus Christ; believing on Him I have eternal life". He then says that he has it in a dying body, waiting for the redemption of that body. When that body sees its (completed) redemption, he will experience that eternal life (he had on Earth) in all its fullness "spirit, soul and body, entirely conformed to Christ". It is in this sense, that he has hope of eternal life - not just the assurance when on Earth, but now in fullness, with the Lord ( 1 John 5:11-13; Ephesians 1:4-14).

Every blessing brother.

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Brother Dan. I'm glad that you found the time to go through that article. To that end & in light of your comments, I would add or clarify:

a. Your quote of Page 4 of Ironside's article: God our Father & Jesus our Judge. I understand that God deals with His children as just that - His children, as those adopted into His family through His Son. We can never be judged again for our sins - we faced judgement when we came to the Cross & gazed upon the crucified One, trusting Him to bear our sins & reconcile us to God. Now judgement remains for those who reject the offer of salvation. As sons, He will chastise us (even as a good father would - Hebrews 12:5-11), whether that gentle warning or more severe dealing with, that we may realize our error & come back into sweet fellowship. The only time we see Jesus as our Judge, is at His Judgement Seat (called, Bema) where rewards are given as per our earthly Christian conduct ( 2 Corinthians 5:10; cf 1 Corinthians 3:12-15) when the full worth of our Christian lives will pass by us. The judgement of the unsaved is certain ( Revelation 20:11-15) where even the good that they have done cannot save them.

I'm not understanding your question/statement. I'm not sure which pastors you speak of. Riots that happened early 2020?

Anti mask? Antivax? These five you've quoted Can't, in truth, be lumped together. Let's address the first 2.=

GOD made us in HIS image, we reflect HIS glory, HE didn't create humanity with masks. HE created us with an immune system. We are to go about with unveiled faces. We are to live by faith & not fear. Many discussions have been had on this site about these issues.

Revelations 21:8,

Ecclesiastes 37:11, John 2:13-17

USA We The People are the Governing Authority & by Duty, are required to right the "government" when they usurp their authority.

The last 3 labels Antilove,- charity, ect, clearly are not of Christ.

1John 4:18, 2 Timothy 3:15-17,

Isaiah 26:3,

Hopefully these are helpful in the heaviness you feel

Very true - thank you, GiGi. All too often, we neglect to "tremble in His Presence" & fail to "tremble at His Word". He may overlook our ignorance, but can He do likewise with our wilfulness? Humility is not only a trait seen before others, but especially whenever we approach the Throne of Grace & His precious Word.

Dear friends in Jesus. Is it not so that Judas have heard the word spoken by Jesus from the beginning of the journey with the Lord?

How is it possible to stand against the Word of God?

Judas have also seen all the work of God what Jesus did. How is it possible to stand against the Lord?

Could it have being any of the disciples who took food from the dish, that the devil get in to? No.

Or is this a huge picture of what money can do to ppl? Do we reely want money then and get stinginess?

I belive we can turn away from that issue, and we can be saved.

Acts 1:25

That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

In my KJV translation is might omitted. So its like this 25) to get part in this ministry the apostolic work that Judas abused, so he could go to his own place.

He was chosen by the Lord, Judas was a Apostle like the others, for sure the King loved him. He had no choice on this question it was predetermined. Someone had to do it unfortunately.

John 17:12

While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

So i belive Judas have a place, but if its Judas Jesus talking about here, then he is lost.

Brother Adam:

Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Philippians 2:11 And every tongue should confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

You said when this happens you are saved.

All mankind, at some point in this age or in the ages to come, is going to bow the knee and confess Jesus is Lord, therefore all mankind will be saved.

Romans 14:11

Isaiah 45:23

Man cannot be in HELL and also CONFESSING JESUS IS LORD.

Scriptures on Israel being oppressed by Greece

Thank you

I felt led to add. Years ago, I actually tried to observe the Sabbath as a Christian who never had beforehand. I learned much

1. to observe a Sabbath: you really have to plan

2 someone has to prepare beforehand

3. Shop for things beforehand

4. It opened my understanding of the scripture & GOD's compassion

Here are multiple scriptures on the Sabbath :

Genesis 2:2,3 (set Sabbath apart), Exodus 16:19-30 (significant differece on Sabbath) , * Exodus 23:11, Exodus 20:11 (blessed & set apart), * Exodus 23:12, Exodus 31:15, Exodus 34:21, Exodus 35:2, Leviticus 16:29-34 (atonement), Leviticus 23:1-10, (seventh day & Passover), * Leviticus 23:21-22, Leviticus 23:27-29 (atonement), Leviticus 23:28-32, * Deuteronomy 5:14, 2 Chronicles 2:4 (forever to Israel), * Isaiah 1:11-18, * Isaiah 56:1-8, * Isaiah 58:6-14,

Jesus observed Matthew 12:8, Mark 1:21, Mark 6:2, Mark 15:42, Luke 4:16,

Jesus set examples on Sabbath * Matthew 12, * Mark 2, * Mark 3, * Luke 6, & many more.

* please note the (*s) these were scriptures that showed compassion & the importance to GOD. (Opposite: Luke 11:42-46 hypocrisy)

By observing the Sabbath do we= Matthew 25:31-46,

Sister GiGi, I quoted scripture;

Obadiah 1:21 And saviours shall come upon mount Zion to JUDGE the mount of Esau, and the kingdom shall be the LORD'S.

We are being created in the image of Christ, we will be exactly like him and will judge exactly like him.

Do you believe the saints are going to judge the word.

Psalms 149:9 To execute upon them the JUDGEMENT WRITTEN: this honour hath all the saints.

God Bless You!

Sister GiGi. I don't have to study those doctrines, I was taught and raised to believe those doctrines, and did believe them from the time I was about 15 years old until I was about 68 years old. God cause me through circumstances he brought about to do nothing but study his word form morning to night, seven days a week, for five and a half years. I no longer believe man has free will, I no longer believe in a trinity, I believe there is a Father and a Son(s), I no longer believe that most of mankind will go to hell; but, believe Jesus was sent by the Father to save the world and the son will not fail in that commission of his Father. You are right, our beliefs will determine whether we are the ones judging the world with Christ, or the ones being judged by Christ and his elect.

I mean Earl, again, saying we will be saviors is blasphemous. There is only one Savior, the God/man Jesus Christ. No one else is a God/man but Hiim.

Oh, Gerry, I am sorry that your cat companion is missing. I pray that this cat will find its way home to you once again soon. Our pets five us so much solace in hard times. Having a stroke is life changing! My friend had hers at age 38. it as been 27 years now. She definitely taught me to have a thankful spirit, as she has had, even though she struggles with depression as does her husband and children. She has had a rough go of life, but is an inspiration to me to work at being cheerful and grateful in all circumstances. I hope you can find such a place of mind as this amidst your troubles.

What is your kitty's name?

Hi Earl,

Did you post this in attempt to counter a post I made a few hours ago?

Is it possible that you are confusing God's unconditional love for us with conditional salvation?

The verses you shared are great, but don't support an unconditional salvation.

Salvation has always been conditional, because it requires action on our part. This was the key point of nearly all the parables Jesus spoke. How to be saved. Being saved means to be saved from something that would otherwise happen. Do nothing = not saved. Follow Jesus = saved. Following Jesus means reading the Word and following the teachings, such as...

Romans 10:9 says "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

It says "If..." you do these things "...thou shalt be saved."

That is a condition. If it was not a condition, then the word "if" would not have been used. If what you're saying is true that this is not a condition then would have said to do nothing or whatever you want, because you're saved regardless. But it doesn't say that. It says the opposite of that. The Bible has many conditions. It's easy to understand what a condition is by the format: If... [you do something] then [this is the result]. In programming, an If... then... statement is called a conditional statement. That's the literal definition of

If I remember right, Earl, do you not believe in hell? If my memory is correct on that, then what is the purpose of salvation? What would you be saved FROM? The whole purpose of salvation is to be saved from hell. Even a secular dictionary gives the definition of salvation as "preservation from destruction or failure."

I'm not sure if anything I wrote will influence your opinion whatsoever, but at least I will have tried. God bless.

David and Jesse, Great exchange!

We have been given all of our senses, and faculties of mind (thought, reason), and our souls, to experience and know what God has revealed to us. When the Spirit regenerates us, we then have the spiritual ability to truly understand these revelations because the Holy Spirit resides in us to teach and guide us, to correct and discipline us, to sanctify and change us, to attest in us the Truth of God, and to warn us when we are not following revealed Truth.

Alex, saying that we will be saviors is blasphemous.

Thank you, Chris, for your statement here. You have defined the problem with such doctrines espoused by people such as these well. I guess, for me, having been on this site for only a month, perhaps the best place to start when processing divergent beliefs about vital topics is to go back to the basics and the beginning. "In the beginning God created.." Determining Who God is and what He is like is the foundation of our faith. If we get that wrong, we will get it wrong about Jesus and the salvation He won for us. So, I encourage everyone on here to go back to the basics and the beginning, and lay the foundation of our faith as Christians on what is true about the God we trust, love, and serve.

You have done a loving thing to address these people in this manner.