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David,

It is one thing to agree that it is God's Spirit who is our teacher, but to say that His Spirit revealed something, that's something I think should be between the believer and the Lord. But people will use that to try and prove what they are saying is true. I mean, if the Holy Spirit revealed it to them, it must be true right? That's where we have to be careful.

I've been face to face with people who have tried to convince me of something and then tell me that the Holy Spirit revealed it to them. I love those kind of discussions. My response was that if the Holy Spirit revealed something to you that is fine and dandy. But If God's Spirit does not reveal the same thing to me, it means absolutely nothing! They usually look at me like I'm sort of a smart aleck. And then I like to ask them how do they know it was the Holy Spirit? That question seems to stumble a lot of people.

I guess we would both be hardliners!

I did not see a place for an offense. Neither did I take one. I am not sure if I was speaking directly to anyone. But I welcome any comments. However, it's one right to freedom of speech to disagree in an agreeable manner. Nevertheless, I hear your statement but I do not agree with your doctrine that we are all born as vessel fit for destruction such as Judas was. Read the Bible. There are some vessels that are fit for destruction and some for honor. Judas Iscariot was fit for destruction from the beginning. It is a damanable doctrine that one would teach that Judas was saved or received salvation. I have heard that lying teaching in other places. But it is a damanable doctrine because it destroys the souls of men and underminds the work of salvation. The devil enter into Judas. Show me when he got cast out of him. Judas went to hell. People are leaving this world every day going to hell. And many ministers or believers are to busy trying to make the pews padded and comfortable. Also, they taper the Word so that it feels good to people. But, I was not created as a vessel for destruction but for honor. No, I was shaped in sin but not destruction there is a difference. I know who I am in Christ Jesus. I am filled with the Spirit of God and have no need of man to teach me who I am. I am just speaking the truth in love. Whether you reject this response or not, it does not really matter. But so far your comment is misleading to all who will read it. It leads away from the shedded blood of Christ. One can preach Jesus but if he is not a bleeding Jesus then people are not saved. You see Judas had sold out the innocent blood. I can preach on this all day. I live what I preach. The blood of Jesus is to be taken and handled in a holy manner. Because as the blood Christ cleanse and saves then it can also destroy. Just start pleading it and a applying it.

I love you with the love of the Lord

But I hate error; lies

Shalom!!?

Brother Jesse: Joseph was a saviour, just as we are going to be, when Christ and his elect judge the world.

Obadiah 1:21

Genesis 45:7 And God sent me before you to SAVE a posterity in the earth, and to SAVE your lives by a great deliverance.



Genesis 50:20 But as for you, you thought evil against me; but God meant it for good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to SAVE much people alive.

Joseph was a shadow as was Moses, Adam, Noah, etc. etc. to reveal the TRUE saviour of ALL MANKIND.

Thank you Ron! I appreciate your input and will certainly pray for understanding. Hava terrific day!

On the red link page, the Apocrypha; if you type giants into the search box; there's a lot more info on giants.

I don't study that. Mostly, because angels are created by God. The ones that followed satan when he was thrown out of heaven became fallen/evil like Satan (who was created too).

Scripture teaches when we are caught up to heaven we'll be as the angels: not given in marriage (or dating). Anatomically speaking I don't know what that means. I don't know what the demons are like. Unless they borrow a human body (from the unsaved peoples), they are invisible. Ephesians 6.

After Noah's Ark, demons would have spirit bodies. Personally, I was attacked by a spirit in which a person whom I quoted scripture to for being involved in spiritism; allowed entry by a demon. It almost broke my neck. I pled the Blood of Jesus and angels took "it" off me and fought it outside in the yard. I heard it.

This can't happen to a born again Christian.

It is wisdom to not delve into the supernatural because our "faith" in the credence of it, attracts evil spirits. Better that our faith is STRONG in Jesus's Authority over evil spirits. Don't walk a tightrope unless you are prepared to fall.

Witches and satanic priests have relations with demons; only invisible beings cannot have mortal body parts.

Be very careful over your curiosity about forbidden dabbling. Leave this alone. You're being targeted.

I may be on the wrong site to ask this but reading your faith points in answers to discuss questions im desperate for prayers im a stroke survivor i rescued a cat but the cat rescued me from depression after stroke i said i know god sent him now my dear thomas is missing for a week today im standing in faith believing i will have him back when youve done all you can do stand and i am but please feel my broken heart and pray he is an indoor cat and slipped out someway im desperate and my back is against the wall it seems like someone has died in my house help in anyway you can words of encouragement scriptures etc

Dee no offence but we are are all born for destruction according to our old Adamic nature as Jesus said every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire , Malachi 3 : 1 kjv Who shall abide the day of his coming who shall stand when he appears, For he shall be as a refiners fire and fullers soap . Thats what the H.G. is a consuming fire as our God is a CONSUMING FIRE . Remember Jesus said i come to bring fire on the Earth. meaning mans Adamic Evil nature. Rev. speaks of the slain of the lord is gona be many. Its our old ADAMIC NATURE that he wants to destroy . Not mankind per se , I come not to destroy mens lives but to save mens lives . He wants to give us a new heart and a new spirit. But our old man is in rank with Satan thats y he refered to Peter as Satan.

Alex There's a major difference between some one not being righteous and what we stated previously is way

off subject matter or way our of context so that being the case I'm moving on. God Bless!

Jesse You can call me a hardliner but I here way to many so called christians saying the spirit told me this

or that and it does not line up with Gods Word, and its happening way too often.

Hiya Rick but lets look at John 2 : 23 kjv. Many ppl believed in his name when they saw the miracles he did but Jesus wd not commit himself to them b/c he knew ALL MEN AND NEEDED NOT THAT ANY SHOULD TESIFY OF MAN. B/c he knew all Men Jesus knew what was in man. Jesus said outta of the hearts of man proceeds all manner of evil . Thats y he had to die Jesus said if i belifted up i will draw ALL men unto me As there was none righteous no not one . No not one.

Gigi P.S. I never said he became Gods Son he was Gods Only begotten Son period, I don't understand why

I share something then people make a statement that I didn't but that's o.k. So as to not argue I'm moving on.

God Bless

Alex,

No offence taken. You make a valid point in that Jesus died for every sinner. That is true. And yes, Joseph forgave his brothers. But Joseph was not a "type" of Christ. Joseph had no saving power.



And then you say "When Jesus said have not I chosen you 12 but 1 of you is a demon, that was all of them." How could that be all of them when Jesus said one, referring to Judas? Yes, "the Lord died for people like Judas." But as you properly state, "We must be born-again, every one of us." That's the key! We must be born again. I see zero evidence that Judas was ever "born-again?"

Jesus did not refer to Peter as Satan. First of all, Jesus said to Peter get behind me. That's important. Jesus always emphasizes that whether it's Satan, people, or whoever it is, the proper position is always behind Him. He says to Peter, "Get behind me Satan." Again, He's not calling Peter Satan. He's speaking to the influence over Peter. It's Satan that says there will be no suffering or hardship in the flesh. Satan is the great defender of the flesh. And through human reason and logic, he will oppose any doctrine that presents the fact that if you follow Jesus, there will be suffering and persecution.

He says thou art an offense (SCANDALIDZO) to me. A SCANDALON in Greek was actually a rock that you tripped over. So Jesus says, Satan you are throwing a rock in my path to keep me from reaching my goal. He says to Peter, "For thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men." This comes from the Greek word PHRONAY which means frame of mind. Jesus is telling Peter that his frame of mind is not on the things of God, but on the things of man. When we hear about suffering, how do we react? Peter's reaction was, and his frame of mind was to defend and protect the flesh because the Lord had said He was going to be taken and be put to death, and Peter said that will never happen. Do you see where his frame of mind was?

I'm sorry to hear that you born with a demon!

Gigi What I stated absolutely takes nothing away from Him the only begotten Son of God

so its your privilege to not agree.

I think this verse will inspire you. The reason being, that when we submit to fantasy and lust, our minds aren't on the Lord.

Philippians 4:8

Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

One way to improve self-control is to remove everything that causes lack of it.

Read in Proverbs for wisdom. Titus 1:15 and Genesis 38:6-10 for resolve to honor the Lord with your body. Paul taught that if we struggle with singleness, to consider marriage.

I hope this helps.

I have only just discovered the books of Esdras and am enthralled. Thank you so much for posting them and explaining why the Apocrypha is no longer part of the Bible as we know it. I find some connections between Esdras and the book of Revelation. My questions are: 1) Do you think there could be any connection between the eagle that ruled over the Earth in 2 Esdras, Chapter 7 and the "snare of the fowler" in Psalm 91? Also, who do you think "Jesus" was in the books of Esdra? Could he possibly be Isaiah? I know that, supposedly the Entity of Jesus did not exist until the virgin birth. However, I've always been drawn to Isaiah as above all of the other prophets and even wondered if he might be the Spirit of Jesus in a human form prior to His later birth of the Virgin Mary. His prophesies spanned many years after he died and I don't believe the explanation that the book of Isaiah was written by different people. He is the one who prophesied most about the MESSIAH and Jesus of Nazareth quoted him a lot. Also, the manner in which Isaiah is said to have died... Any thoughts for me?

Thank you,

Faith

Hi Thomas,

That was the interpretation generally held by the church in its early history, but others say that the sons of God were the men of the line of Seth and the daughter's of men were from the line of Cain or even, perhaps, of other human populations if God create mankind in Genesis 1 and set apart Adam in the garden for the line that survives the flood and leads to Jesus, our Messiah. I don't know if we can really know for sure. The Book of Enoch says that it was fallen angels that interbred with human women.

I do not know if scientific discovery will bring anything to this discussion. Should skeletal remains of people from that time ever be found and DNA could be extracted and analyzed, and compared to others from that age, then we may get some answers.

Thomas,

Yes, I here that these medications are very effective. I hope I would be able to get these meds prescribed if I do get covid. I hate that the use of these have been politicized and also discouraged by big pharma for the sake of the dollar. So many people could have been helped by these meds. I am glad that you recovered well from covid and now have natural immunity. That is always a good outcome.

God's blessings to you always.

Dear Amarin, An Asherah Pole is an Asherah Pole, a Christmas tree is a Christmas tree. If one worships before a Christmas tree, it is idolatrous, but not necessarily an Asherah Pole.

Good morning, Rick

I do not agree that Jesus was not born wit the spirit. I believe Jesus was fully human and fully God at conception. He always possessed the Spirit. In reference to John 1:32, at Jesus' baptism the Father and Spirit manifested with Him to affirm to those around Him that He was the Messiah, not to fill Him with the Spirit. If your interpretation is correct, then the it would also be true that the He became the Son of the Father at that time. But He was always the Son of the Father, Who said at His baptism, This IS my only begotten Son, in Whom I am well pleased. Jesus was already His Son. It does not say He became His Son. Same is true of the Spirit. Jesus was One in Unity with the and Spirit from all eternity, therefore as fully God and fully man, He had the Spirit since conception.

Hey Tony,

If I may, what people call demons are devils, unclean spirits, principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this world, and spiritual wickedness in high places, some spirits with no physical bodies, some angels that have bodies that cannot possess humans but can control. Evil spirits are on this earth that can influence and also possess humans.

We see while Jesus was here the first time, He cast them out of many people, also he gave power for the disciples to do the same Matthew 10:1. We also see Paul doing the same, one in Acts 16:18. They are still on this earth, many do not believe they're real but believe me they are real.

The bible is not clear how or why these beings are on the earth. There are writings outside of the bible that talk about these but how true are they. The sons of God you speak of are angels, not unembodied spirits. Job 1:6 Job 2:1 and Job 38:7. We know some angels left their first estate and sinned that are locked in chains of darkness until judgment. 2 Peter 2:4 Jude 1:6.

These angels are not the devils or spirits that are roaming this earth, they are locked in the bottomless pit. We see they have a king in Revelation 9 whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. Strange is his name has the same meaning as the son of perdition, that means destruction/destroyer.

Through scripture, it says angels can take on human form, they ate and drank and even wrestled with Jacob. We are even warned when entertaining strangers they may be an angel. The sons of God you speak of in Genesis are those angels who left their first estate and mated with human women that produced the giants (Nephilim and Rephaim or Rephaites) The name of these people means "terrible ones", they were before the flood and after Genesis 6:4 tells us they were then and after the flood and when the sons of God mated with women it produced giants.

God bless,

RLW

Rick, I agree.

I was just responding to the topic of this thread. Focusing on the goodness of God and His provision for us in the gospel of Jesus is so worthy of our attention. It brings us such joy! But I think it is wise to be aware that evil influences do cause people confusion, terror, and harm and be willing to pray and stand against these things when God calls us to do so.

Have a wonderful day, Rick.

Hi Tony Just something to consider, when I study the word, my approach is not to look for what I believe it

means or trying to prove what I think but what is God saying, what does He mean, after all its His Word and its Truth.

I was I was trying to find out is masturbation a sin against God

Hi David,

I'm with you on that. Everything we need to know about prophecy is already contained in God's written word!

A beginner.

Is what Ezekiel saw a Prophecy of the end times?

BEHOLD! CAN YOU NOT SEE THE PARADINE HERE ? The riots,protests,violence! With some pastors ,and christians leading the way against the goverment the world antimask, antivax,antilove,anticharity,antichrist!

Alex N. There is no where in the bible where it says we are all born with demons or devils if that's the case you

are saying that everyone is born possessed. Influenced yes, going by the senses yes but possession no.

Brother that's not at all a profitable or loving thought or understanding. You have to show me that literally line

by line and word by word. God Bless

Were giants procreated from the sons of GOD (Angels) and daughters of men's sexual union?

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Brother Chris,

Harry states: "Then I shall have received eternal life in all its fullness, spirit, soul, and body, entirely conformed to Christ. In that sense I am hoping for eternal life" My comment: Yes, I agree we are all hoping for eternal life/salvation - we do not have it until the final judgement.

Harry:"But over and over and over again, Scripture rings the changes on the fact that every believer is at the present time in possession of eternal life." My comment: Here he contradicts himself saying that he believes that every believer is currently in possession of eternal life.

Harry: "That is exactly what we stand for. Anyone who says "I am a Christian" and does not follow peace and holiness will never see the Lord. At the judgment seat of Christ, the Lord will go over the entire life since regeneration, giving His mind about every thing, and the believer will then for the first time see each detail in the light of God's infinite holiness. Everything there will be dealt with so that the believer's failures will never be referred to again for all eternity." My Comment: I agree with this, we must be Christ followers, and Jesus Christ (Our Judge) will go over our lives since "being saved" or as Harry says since "our regeneration".

God Bless

He was not saved. He was a vessel fit for destruction.